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English Premier League thread

Stan

Allez les Lionceaux !!!
12 September 2002
Is there a better player in the EPL than Kevin De Bruyne? Liverpool will be the deserved champions, but KDB is by far the best player in the league. He should leave City. Would be a shame if he would never win the CL and City will not win it.
 

Chuny

GFX MOD
Staff
11 December 2007
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Is there a better player in the EPL than Kevin De Bruyne? Liverpool will be the deserved champions, but KDB is by far the best player in the league. He should leave City. Would be a shame if he would never win the CL and City will not win it.
I agree.
You don't see playmakers like that anymore.
But he's not just that. He also scores. He also comes back and helps defensively.

He's definitely on my top 5 players in the world.
 

Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
Tranmere Rovers
New ball for the EPL (and other top flight leagues across Europe) revealed...


What do you guys think?

Really divided opinion amongst friends and colleagues.

Some say it's going to be a classic due to the fact that it's so simple (with the huge tick), and monochrome.

Others say it looks like it's been left on a hot radiator for a month - and it looks like it's cream-coloured rather than pure white, which is really odd.

I think it looks shrivelled and weird, don't like it at all!
 

Isslander

Gordon's alive!
3 August 2003
Iceland
Liverpool
something about this design (or maybe the shadow) makes it look uneven, not completely circular. Apart from the look, it seems like it could be a genuine revolution in designing a ball, but yeah they could have made it look a bit better. Nike balls are usually so poor imo compared to Adidas, but I am intrigued to see if this thing actually is any different to play with.
 

mattmid

Champions League
15 December 2011
Looks a bit weird to me. 30% truer flight but then it says engineered for precision flight, so which is it? Well whatever it is like, it can't possibly make the Premier League games any more boring than they have been since the return.
 

mattmid

Champions League
15 December 2011
Firstly, yes they are correct decisions by the current handball law, but the two late goals that were disallowed tonight for Tottenham and Man City were just absolutely ridiculous. They surely have to do away with this stupid handball rule for attacking teams. It's a complete and utter farce. First one rolls over Foden's arm as he's laying on the ground about 50yds from the goal at the start of the move and the second one Moura stumbles over under a challenge and falls down and the ball touches his arm as he lands.
 

Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
Tranmere Rovers
Firstly, yes they are correct decisions by the current handball law, but the two late goals that were disallowed tonight for Tottenham and Man City were just absolutely ridiculous. They surely have to do away with this stupid handball rule for attacking teams. It's a complete and utter farce. First one rolls over Foden's arm as he's laying on the ground about 50yds from the goal at the start of the move and the second one Moura stumbles over under a challenge and falls down and the ball touches his arm as he lands.
Completely agree. Love VAR, hate rules that are against the spirit of the game (by organisations against the spirit of the game).

Found this interesting...


Also, the most highly featured comments are all in disagreement...
 

Flipper the Priest

Hellow Mum
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
As far as rule changes goes, the make up of Ifab only muddies the water.

Fifa only takes up one of the five seats, the UK FAs the rest. That means the Northern Irish FA (I pick them out as the smallest nation by population) does, in theory, have more power than France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined, to pick the rest of the so-called 'big five'. (How's that European trophy count going, France?...)

Why would the FAs of Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales be for such convoluted rules, which require VAR to be implemented correctly, when they can't afford VAR? And the 171 other Fifa nations that don't use VAR, predominantly for financial reasons?

Fifa will be exerting undue influence and we all know why. The stakes are so high that in a frenzied pursuit of fairness the decision makers are losing the spirit of the game. Despite their claims:

"The Laws cannot deal with every possible situation, so where there is no direct provision in the Laws, The IFAB expects the referee to make a decision within the ‘spirit’ of the game – this often involves asking the question, “what would football want/expect?”"

From Ifabs Laws of the Game. What a pile of shite.

Not sure what it's like in your respective nations but referee training is brilliant and cheap. Pretty sure it was £30 two years ago for 14 hours of learning, an accredited qualification from the SFA and equipment (kit, cards, whsitle, the lot!). Was only doing it cos I'm a nerd. So I'm a qualified ref who's never reffed. Arsed being bullied by 22+ hungover blokes on a Saturday morning.
 

mattmid

Champions League
15 December 2011
I think what makes the handball rule worse is that it is effectively a rule that has been put in place because of VAR. Surely that cannot be right? In the majority of cases there is no way a referee on the pitch can even see these types of handball so in 90% of the games across the world those two goals last night would have stood anyway making a mockery of the rule. Also in those two cases and it seems the majority of these types the handball has no direct bearing on the goal that was scored anyway!

This isn't what VAR is supposed to be for surely?
 

Isslander

Gordon's alive!
3 August 2003
Iceland
Liverpool
Whose idea was it to make the ref stop the game if the ball hits him, him being a part of the pitch was one of the best rules in football.
 

Stan

Allez les Lionceaux !!!
12 September 2002
About Spurs goal, as a Spurs fan and as a fan of good football, i'm glad it was disallowed. Watching Spurs under Mourinho hurts my eyes and my heart. Sack that man. He drags the club down with his miserabilistic approach to football.
The way he uses substitutes to underrmine certain players is a disgrace.
Why on earth would you bring Jan Vertonghen on when you are 2-0 down with 10 minutes to play? Jan is a club monument and who signed for a month because he is a true gentleman and because he loves Spurs. Ndombele never starts a match, yesterday when the team played abysmal, he let him play...
Mister Levy, please sack this monster....NOW.
 

Stan

Allez les Lionceaux !!!
12 September 2002
Spurs must be the worst team in the league at the moment. Arsenal will have a field day against them. Mourinho really has done miracles for this team. Granted the slide started last season, but he made the Spurs the least attractive team in the league...To dare is to do? Not for José. Levy, please sack him asap, please, i'm begging you.
 

Dr Force

Golden Boot Winner
17 September 2006
East Midlands
Manchester United
New ball for the EPL (and other top flight leagues across Europe) revealed...


What do you guys think?

Really divided opinion amongst friends and colleagues.

Some say it's going to be a classic due to the fact that it's so simple (with the huge tick), and monochrome.

Others say it looks like it's been left on a hot radiator for a month - and it looks like it's cream-coloured rather than pure white, which is really odd.

I think it looks shrivelled and weird, don't like it at all!
That is truly awful........I’m getting pretty sick of them constantly trying to reinvent the simplicity of the game.....what’s next.....glue goal nets, boot cam, coloured goal posts? I’m getting older, but when you start putting ridges in a ball to make it less unstable, it’s another tick in the ”sanitising the game” box.
 

slamsoze

Champions League
28 September 2010
That is truly awful........I’m getting pretty sick of them constantly trying to reinvent the simplicity of the game.....what’s next.....glue goal nets, boot cam, coloured goal posts? I’m getting older, but when you start putting ridges in a ball to make it less unstable, it’s another tick in the ”sanitising the game” box.
A friend of mine, used to play pro and semipro as GK, told me that after 2006, the mainstream manufacturers balls have gone crazy, with milestone the WC 2010 Jabulani ball, with the gell technology, that tended to give the ball extra spin and most world class goalkeeps also confessed so about its bad effects.

Nowadays they tend to create balls that make crazy zig-zags, like the gas station plastic balls and this often makes GKs look ridiculous.

This 30% true flight feature, concerns me in this direction.
 

Stan

Allez les Lionceaux !!!
12 September 2002
Watched Liverpool-Chelsea yesterday. This is the best match i've seen since the Corona break.
The pundit at Belgian television (our best coach, Van Haezebroeck) is very impressed with Frank Lampard as a manager. That is remarkabele imo. Obviously the man knows more about football than i do. But what i don't understand, why is Pulisic jot a starter. He has been superb since the corona break and yesterday he was absolutely outstanding, a game changer. HIs action that led to the second Chelsea goal was perhaps the best individual action i've seen all season and his finishing for the third goal was sublime. My 20 year old daughter plays football herself, understands the game and is a passionate Chelsea fan. She loves Hazard yet she thinks Pulisic can become as god as Hazard and i i'm beginning to believe that.
 

Isslander

Gordon's alive!
3 August 2003
Iceland
Liverpool
Well done Man United to get the CL spot but what absolute shambles were Leicester after the Covid break. Embarrassing.
 

Stan

Allez les Lionceaux !!!
12 September 2002
It's a pity because before Covid, they were very good. Is it a coïncidence that this happens again with a Brendan Rodgers team (running out of steam), see also Liverpool when he was there?

And will it be possible that Kevin De Bruyne will never be player of the year. Look at his stats, i saw a stat about assists goals and passes that created big chances after KDB played 150 matches in the EPL. He was the best player ever, before players like Cantona and Henry. Infdividual trophy's in a team sport are a litle bit useless, but if you really want to give them, then give them to the best player. I really like Jordan Henderson (i remeber defending him in the Liverpool thread when ihe just was there), he is a good player, but KDB is an outstanding player. IMO at the moment only Messi is better.
Look at his goals and assist against Norwich (i know, it's only Norwich)... fabulous player, but he doesn't feel the need to be a star...KDB is somewhat a football nerd.
 

Stan

Allez les Lionceaux !!!
12 September 2002
The difference between Liverpool and City and the others is huge...not good. But in England there are at least two clubs much better. Better than PSG, Bayern and Juventus. This is not good for football. Football needs competition. The huge amounts of money that are involved are killing competition.
Here in Belgium we just have (had?) the best generation ever. Yet they hardly played for Belgian clubs. Can you imagine having and English golden generation who all play for foreign clubs? That is how we feel here...
 

PeterC10

Championship
31 May 2007
United Kingdom
Liverpool FC
It's a pity because before Covid, they were very good. Is it a coïncidence that this happens again with a Brendan Rodgers team (running out of steam), see also Liverpool when he was there?
Nah, they were bad before the enforced covid shutdown. Their form in the second half of the season has been almost relegation-like.

Don't think it's a coincidence with Rodgers, his only solution when things go wrong is to break out the 3 centre backs system, and it rarely helps.

I should add that they had some pretty bad luck with injuries. Their whole system was so good because of the attacking full backs, losing Pereira for so long and then Chilwell on top of that really took a lot out of them.

But they were something like 14 points clear of 5th place on new years day, they only needed average form for Champions League football, and failed to do that.
 
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