I didnt mean it that way.
I started with the first 2 Danish teams. Then I did Manchester United and City. Then more. I don't have Legend difficulty yet. So I have to play Superstar for an amount of times before it unlocks?
Yeah I like to believe so from what I've witnessed. I honestly went into it hopeless, just doing it for the sake of it, didn't expect much. So I was pleasantly surprised to see stats actually still working. But again imo, to see the difference, I'm only sticking to the 40-70 stats range, with 80 being my ceiling, as in reserved to the best of the best, like Messi or Ronaldo. So even the best are mostly 70s in this test. Like I mentioned earlier, 70s still feel like 80s and 90s stats to me, and maybe that's why we're complaining to see no difference between players, since most of them, If not all, are in the 70-90 range.
5 wins on SS if memory serves me right, pal.
Since PES 2013? Are you positive? It's been this long I haven't noticed?
@Alx1234 just saw your post haha.
I started with the first 2 Danish teams. Then I did Manchester United and City. Then more. I don't have Legend difficulty yet. So I have to play Superstar for an amount of times before it unlocks?
Yeah I like to believe so from what I've witnessed. I honestly went into it hopeless, just doing it for the sake of it, didn't expect much. So I was pleasantly surprised to see stats actually still working. But again imo, to see the difference, I'm only sticking to the 40-70 stats range, with 80 being my ceiling, as in reserved to the best of the best, like Messi or Ronaldo. So even the best are mostly 70s in this test. Like I mentioned earlier, 70s still feel like 80s and 90s stats to me, and maybe that's why we're complaining to see no difference between players, since most of them, If not all, are in the 70-90 range.
Also, when I speak of the 40-70 range, it's only the ball control, dribble, pass, loft pass and explosive speed stats that I've changed, and the 5 keeper stats except Clearing (only for keepers). All other stats I haven't touched and are still in their default state, 40-90s. Maybe someone else can fiddle with them
From what I've played so far, yes. But there's always the possibility that neither CPU nor I have had enough shots to see them happening. But yes, in all my games so far I've honestly yet to see one silly looking Superman floaty animation. Most of them have been nice realistic saves, and if they were far from the ball you'd expect a goal with the keeper realistically trying without reaching.
I re-confirm, did a youtube search from 2013 to 2016, after that it is pretty the same except this year the "Additional Leagues" option is removed. I can do the same research for 2017 until 2019 if you want,but i am still sure 200% for 2017 & 2018 and 1,000% sure for this year's ML.Check belowSince PES 2013? Are you positive? It's been this long I haven't noticed?
If this is the case I'm not touching ML then. Will stick to leagues.I re-confirm, did a youtube search from 2013 to 2016, after that it is pretty the same except this year the "Additional Leagues" option is removed. I can do the same research for 2017 until 2019 if you want,but i am still sure 200% for 2017 & 2018 and 1,000% sure for this year's ML.Check below
Just for the history records and to remember how ML is regressing through time, just check the option screen of PES 2011 Master League. Also in Player Development there was an additional option, i think it was also in 2013, which was named DYNAMIC development, the option were /dynamic/normal/off. Image below
How are you gonna get 16 year old Francesco Tottis son then??
)Hah, no thanks.How are you gonna get 16 year old Francesco Tottis son then??
I think the story of "kick-off formation" is that we have a "default formation", in case we decided to turn fluid formation OFF.
I think they're going for a more modern, flatter(less 3D) and minimalist look now but they're just not good at doing it.
They are these two.
Yep. I went -20 for their 4 specific GK stats, except Clearing I left it at default. And played Superstar difficulty. I'll try some more playing and editing now too.
Yeah I like to believe so from what I've witnessed. I honestly went into it hopeless, just doing it for the sake of it, didn't expect much. So I was pleasantly surprised to see stats actually still working. But again imo, to see the difference, I'm only sticking to the 40-70 stats range, with 80 being my ceiling, as in reserved to the best of the best, like Messi or Ronaldo. So even the best are mostly 70s in this test. Like I mentioned earlier, 70s still feel like 80s and 90s stats to me, and maybe that's why we're complaining to see no difference between players, since most of them, If not all, are in the 70-90 range.
Also, when I speak of the 40-70 range, it's only the ball control, dribble, pass, loft pass and explosive speed stats that I've changed, and the 5 keeper stats except Clearing (only for keepers). All other stats I haven't touched and are still in their default state, 40-90s. Maybe someone else can fiddle with them
Holy shit what a difference.
This is also possible if you have him and import him.He will be like MC with scanned face but non-editable.
Sorry to contradict you but I've had PLENTY of shots going over the bar by a large margin. "Skied shots" as you called them. In fact, I remember not too long ago, playing my ManCity Master League, had a few of them with (oddly enough) Kevin De Bruyne, I thought I had the positioning right, the timing, the power and even the right stick properly aimed, but still the shots went up and wide. Talking about Advanced Shooting here btw.Nice. Did you try editing the keepers as well? Also, was it different in a realistic way, or was it just easier for you? Because my aim isn't to make it easier, but closer to realism.Hey there,.. well Lami, I gotta say your tweaks definitely worked, having a positive impact on gameplay
I did the -20 on all of the ability stats you mentioned, for 3 teams: Queenspark Rangers, Sevilla , and my bogey team Argentinos Juniors. The first 2 were random (haven't tried these teams yet), and Argentinos Juniors because I literally lost to them about 15 games in a row on superstar over the last week (hence stating previously how much harder Superstar seems these days). Yes, switching from FM shooting to Basic, has now made things easier for me, but still some of goals they were scoring was still almost leading to that dual-shock-rage-damage (aka DSRD) feeling. The build up passing from the cpu was just too good, and it honesty felt I couldn't do anything to defend these goals. The goals they were scoring on Superstar seemed truly defenceless. And to the point where I was questioning the current patch being changed without our knowledge... just seemed Superstar was much harder, and I didn't quite see the mistakes and the heavy touches that I saw previously after the latest patch.
Anyways, I had 3 games after the "-20 toned down stat edit" (on superstar with the same p1 teams), ensuring no live update of course, and wow... totally changed the game. If I had to sum it up in a few words, id say the power has been give back to my defenders. Much easier to defend, as they cpu was no longer overpowered in their passing and touch, ie. so many heavy touches, definitely more passing mistakes, and it was much easier to read the cpu's passing lanes which meant I made so many more intercepts (which was almost impossible prior). It just felt like both teams, me and the cpu, were on an even playing field. As much as im loving this on superstar, now im really keen to see how this affects "Legend" difficulty.. as I prefer the challenge of "Legend's" pressing defence compared to superstar (making it obviously more challenging/satisfying to score). That, coupled with a "-20 toned down stat edit" with their attacking, could really be something great...will try this out over the next few days.
Good stuff Lami
I edited the United starting 11 real quick (I don’t want sub players for this test) and edited the whole City team (the AI might sub players)! The 5 values for each player you advised plus goalie stats but not clearing!
