PES3/WE7 discussion thread

[MadbaLL]

does anyone have wendetta patch update 1.1 and 1.2 for pes 3?

 

[Flipper the Priest]

Having gone back to revisit the the series' golden age I found myself surprised: PES 3 is comfortably the pick of the bunch.

Totally forgotten how brilliant it is to play. Now doing some editing to bring it up to scratch and then I'm head first into a Master League!

 

[mattmid]

@Flipper the Priest Any chance you can upload the OF when you've finished?

 

[Flipper the Priest]

@Flipper the Priest Any chance you can upload the OF when you've finished?

Definitely. Will do it in stages. I nearly have a base one with flags, kits and names (stadiums, teams and players).

Next stops are removing the fake/duplicate players and fixing the starting XIs. That'll involve the creation of two new teams. But who...

 

[mattmid]

Hmm, throw a few out there... Besiktas, Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, AEK Athens, Lokomotiv Moscow? Or your team if they're not in there, after all you're making it.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

Panathinaikos and Olympiacos are already there. With Fenerbahce and Galatasaray already there I reckon we're at the Turkish complement. Lokomotiv are in the hat. I was leaning towards them and Basel, as they were the only two teams that made it to the knockout stages of the 02-03 Champions League that aren't in the game. They may have qualified for the option file as a result.

No-one wants the 2003 Aberdeen team in their option file. Not even me.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

Lokomotiv and Basel it is. Started to put existing players into the Lokomotiv squad - boy are the squads out of date. It might start a transfer merry-go-round, which might mean decimated squads, which might mean creating players. It's growing arms and legs earlier than expected.

 

[mattmid]

Just read the Aberdeen comment.

That seems a good choice, things are never straightforward with an OF

 

[Flipper the Priest]

Option file is coming along. Far more transfers to do than I remembered and anticipated. Some corners have been cut, admittedly, by using stats from later games as a base. There's some other funny business going on that isn't 100% accurate. Time was I'd be scouring photo archives and posting on Czech forums to find out which number Jiri Nemec wore for Sparta Prague in 2003, but I wasn't a fully-grown man with a full time job and girlfriend then.

 

[MadbaLL]

@Flipper the Priest i don't understand, are you editinig default option file (season 2003/2004) or you are making current season one?

i hope it is 2003/2004 and you can you wednetta patch option file as a base.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

Editing the default option file to the squads as they were at the game's release.

General rule of thumb: if a player was, according to transfermarkt.co.uk, in a team's squad on 17th October 2003 and played a minute of league football in the 2003-04 season - they're in.

I'll check out the Wendetta patch OF, and see what's what. But I'm so much of a control freak that I might not do much with it!

 

[Flipper the Priest]

I've bitten off more than I expected but I'm chewing away. Two teams created and 20 teams updated leaves me at 22/66. That's one third! [jigs]

The classic players are drying up so I'm going to have to overwrite some 'active' players. That'll be fun(!)

Looking forward to getting it completed, sharing, and starting that ML...

 

[MadbaLL]

I've bitten off more than I expected but I'm chewing away. Two teams created and 20 teams updated leaves me at 22/66. That's one third! [jigs]

The classic players are drying up so I'm going to have to overwrite some 'active' players. That'll be fun(!)

Looking forward to getting it completed, sharing, and starting that ML...

can you be a little more specific about edits you make?

 

[Flipper the Priest]

Focused heavily on transfers.

As previously: if a player was, according to transfermarkt.co.uk, in a team's squad on 17th October 2003 (UK release date) and played a minute of league football in the 2003-04 season - they're in.

If they were on loan at a team not in the game, I've only left them in if they returned in the future to play for their parent club in real life.

Created player attributes are based on the player's stats other PES games, adjusted depending on the player's age. Lots of stats from PES4 as you can imagine. If a player has never appeared in any PES, I've used stats based on similar players from over the series, going by position, age, height and nationality.

Appearances are rough. Skin colour, head and facial hair style and colour.

A bit of guesswork in the formations, lineups, kickers and captains. Tried my best by putting together info from the web and other PES games.

A purist and hardcore editors may see a few corners cut here but I don't have the time and/or willing to make it more detailed!

 

[slamsoze]

Focused heavily on transfers.

As previously: if a player was, according to transfermarkt.co.uk, in a team's squad on 17th October 2003 (UK release date) and played a minute of league football in the 2003-04 season - they're in.

If they were on loan at a team not in the game, I've only left them in if they returned in the future to play for their parent club in real life.

Created player attributes are based on the player's stats other PES games, adjusted depending on the player's age. Lots of stats from PES4 as you can imagine. If a player has never appeared in any PES, I've used stats based on similar players from over the series, going by position, age, height and nationality.

Appearances are rough. Skin colour, head and facial hair style and colour.

A bit of guesswork in the formations, lineups, kickers and captains. Tried my best by putting together info from the web and other PES games.

A purist and hardcore editors may see a few corners cut here but I don't have the time and/or willing to make it more detailed!

Are you using a database for pes4 stats? Or you are checking them straight from the game? Cause the only known database we have, pes Master has only pes5 stats in the pre11 era.

 

[Flipper the Priest]

For PES4, 5 and 6 (even 2 in the odd instance) it's been straight from the game. However, this has come in very handy.

 

[MadbaLL]

Focused heavily on transfers.

As previously: if a player was, according to transfermarkt.co.uk, in a team's squad on 17th October 2003 (UK release date) and played a minute of league football in the 2003-04 season - they're in.

If they were on loan at a team not in the game, I've only left them in if they returned in the future to play for their parent club in real life.

Created player attributes are based on the player's stats other PES games, adjusted depending on the player's age. Lots of stats from PES4 as you can imagine. If a player has never appeared in any PES, I've used stats based on similar players from over the series, going by position, age, height and nationality.

Appearances are rough. Skin colour, head and facial hair style and colour.

A bit of guesswork in the formations, lineups, kickers and captains. Tried my best by putting together info from the web and other PES games.

A purist and hardcore editors may see a few corners cut here but I don't have the time and/or willing to make it more detailed!

well, that bolded was the part i've read before, when you started your mission .

i was wondering about possible edits regarding team list, kits, faces, balls... do you change something in those matters or everything stays as default, meaning only option files is to be edited?

 

[Flipper the Priest]

Only option file. I don't know much/anything about patching! Maybe one day but unlikely.

Badges, stadium names, team names, kits are all edited within the option file. Not all my own work, admittedly, but I'll credit it.

 

[Lobbedball]

Which game is better? Btw pes 3 to pes 6?

 

[M2015]

Which game is better? Btw pes 3 to pes 6?

PES3 is the best

 

[galvatron1983]

Ive been playing WE7i a lot lately with the Wendetta 03/04 patch. Some of the collars are garbled on the kits though, was there ever a fix for those?

 

[MadbaLL]

Ive been playing WE7i a lot lately with the Wendetta 03/04 patch. Some of the collars are garbled on the kits though, was there ever a fix for those?

there is a better patch available:

https://evo-web.co.uk/threads/pes-3-world-patch-2003-04.82940/

 

[Zeman]

where to get his pes 3 for PC?

 

[MadbaLL]

where to get his pes 3 for PC?

rutracker.org for full version of pes 3, torrents for installer versions.

 

[rsl1]

where to get his pes 3 for PC?

There are some installer versions in the Sany thread as well. It isn't just Pes 6 versions as the title would lead you to believe, it has some 3, 4, 5 and we9le versions in there as well

 

[MadbaLL]

there is no clean pes 3 installer on sany's thread.

also, it is not recommended to use installers for pes 3, since every major patche update also updates .exe file. full version is best option to use.

 

[rsl1]

there is no clean pes 3 installer on sany's thread.

also, it is not recommended to use installers for pes 3, since every major patche update also updates .exe file. full version is best option to use.

No clean ones but I didn't know that he was looking for clean versions. Oh well, that's not an option then

 

[Flipper the Priest]

I've never really understood the full Ts and Cs behind clean versions in that thread. I asked about a clean version of PES4 ages ago and was shot down, told it was a no-no. But then there are clean versions of PES5 and PES6? Seems inconsistent.

 

[Chris Davies]

I've never really understood the full Ts and Cs behind clean versions in that thread. I asked about a clean version of PES4 ages ago and was shot down, told it was a no-no. But then there are clean versions of PES5 and PES6? Seems inconsistent.

That would be fine. Here are the rules, which haven't changed as far as I know:

Firstly - we do not advocate piracy of any currently available titles. Forum rules state this pretty clearly. If a game is available to purchase legally (excluding second-hand sales as these don't benefit the publishers / developers anyway), we will not allow discussion on how or where to illegally download those games, nor how to bypass their copy protection, nor any similar subject matter other than general discussion and (of course) modding discussion.

However - as is the case with "classic" titles like PES5 & PES6, as those games are no longer for sale, and this is a enthusiasts' community where we look back through all previous PES games for retro-lovin' reasons, we do allow discussion of these games, including posts containing non-site-hosted links where you can download these older games, and any necessary "no-DVD" EXE files in order to allow modded content to appear in the game. These games are considered "abandonware" (where the publisher no longer distributes the titles for sale, and where the developer no longer supports those titles, and has turned off the servers for necessary data-pack downloads and online play).

 

[Flipper the Priest]

That would be fine. Here are the rules, which haven't changed as far as I know:

That's what I thought, especially recently after 2014 was made available in its appreciation thread.

I ended up buying [PES3]; I may well upload it somewhere for the huddled masses.