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The PC Building Thread

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
You see I prefer game FPS Smoothness over Graphics when it comes to gaming. Looking to upgrade my PC this year.
Coming from using consoles for the most part of my gaming career i'm used to 30 FPS so its not a issue for me really.

But i must admit is does look great when its nice and smooth on a PC.
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
I'm loving this GTX 970.

All the games i've played so far have been maxed out and the DSR feature is brillaint.
 

Sami 1999

Noob
28 June 2015
I've seen many people on PC complains how worse 30 FPS looks on PC compared to Consoles. Here's a way to eliminate microstutters @ 30 FPS on PC (For Nvidia cards):

1) Turn OFF in game Vsync.
2) Force Vsync ON through drivers (set for each game specifically, do not use adaptive half refresh Vsunc).
3) Open Nvidia Inspector, set FPS limit to 30.5 for each game seperately.
4) Turn Tripple buffer ON.

The games will have consistent Frame times and won't suffer from microstutters. You might wanna turn of motion blur as well if you like to somewhat hide the gap between each frames to some extent. You can also reduce mouse sensitivity to slow down your camera speed.

Seriously, with games like Assasins Creed Unitiy that can't maintain steady 60 FPS on low settings even at 1440x900p, I was able to maintain stable 30 FPS at 3840x2160+ Everything maxed out+ FxAA [Instead of MSAA] and the game only dropped to 29 FPS rarely with 980 Ti.

It's better to play un-optimized games at stable 30 FPS at 60 Hz instead of unstable stuttery tear filled 40~50 FPS.

Also, make sure your refresh rate is 60Hz. For 144Hz, you gotta lock FPS to 36. Or if the game can maintain constant 48 FPS- then you can lock it to 48 FPS at 144Hz.
 

Cesc Fabregas

Gooner
15 June 2007
Germany
BVB / Arsenal

Sami 1999

Noob
28 June 2015
Thanks for the replies. Both of you.

Could you please elaborate?
Try to get G-sync [If yo have Nvidia GPU] or Free Sync [If you have AmD GPU].

Because its impossible to keep even a steady 90 FPS on modern games. All these variable FPS causes a rough microstuttery look at 144Hz. But G-sync prevents that.
 

bsmaff

International
11 August 2003
Welwyn Garden
Exeter City
The first question really is what is your budget?

Most PC gaming monitors which are any good are priced around £500 - £700.

It also seems that you are like me and holding out for 4K monitors to actually be half decent, my monitor is 1080P, 120HZ and 3d. I have been tempted loads of times to upgrade, but I am personally waiting for 4K monitors to become 100+hz and provide the quality of current 1440p gaming monitors.
 

Chuny

GFX MOD
Staff
11 December 2007
Buenos Aires, Argentina
I guess I'm willing to spend about 600 USD (US DOLLARS).

I was thinking about a 4K monitor because, eventually I'll end up getting the GTX 1080 11GB DDR5, and next year I'll also probably get some console which I was goin going to connect to the 4K monitor.

I have no idea what do 144Hz monitor offer, and why you guys are suggesting me to get one of those instead of a 4K one. Would love to know. Isn't 4K the future?.
 

Chuny

GFX MOD
Staff
11 December 2007
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Try to get G-sync [If yo have Nvidia GPU] or Free Sync [If you have AmD GPU].

Because its impossible to keep even a steady 90 FPS on modern games. All these variable FPS causes a rough microstuttery look at 144Hz. But G-sync prevents that.
What if I have a NVidia card and bought a FreeSync monitor (like an LG one)?.
It's not the case, but I would like to know what would happen.
 

Sami 1999

Noob
28 June 2015
What if I have a NVidia card and bought a FreeSync monitor (like an LG one)?.
It's not the case, but I would like to know what would happen.
Free Sync won't work in Nvidia GPUs and Gsync wont work on AmD GPUs, simple as that.
 

Chuny

GFX MOD
Staff
11 December 2007
Buenos Aires, Argentina
1440p 144hz = Fast paced games = Counter strike
4K 60hz = Beautiful games = GTAV

But where does that leave us? PES/FIFA players?
Don't we want a beautiful, detailed, vibrant game which can also be played flawlessly at the higher FPS rate the game can provide?.

I'm going crazy trying to find the best option, thinking ahead, with PES 2018 as the priority.
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
Guys, would a 980 TI Armour X2 be a worthwhile upgrade from a GTX 970?

I might try and part chop mine for one, I think it would cost me £150 or so to it, what do you think?
 

yair25

https://pcinfo.co.il/
9 July 2011
some videos that i've created recently about CPU's and GPU's





most are targeted to the budget PC builders
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
If you look at the comparison charts between the two - The 980Ti is about 50% faster than the 970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1743?vs=1715

But the 980Ti is slightly slower than the GTX 1070 - The 1070 might be cheaper than the 980ti, but not looked.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1715
Cool nice one

I was looking for a site like that tbh, its a lot easier to see if its better FPS wise than all the jargon on the other sites I found lol

Oh yeah i forgot to add i was looking at the 1070 as well and it is around the same price maybe even a tad cheaper. It was just someone saying they would PartX for a lesser card that got me interested in the 980.

I think ill try and get the 1070. That should do me for a bit.
 
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bsmaff

International
11 August 2003
Welwyn Garden
Exeter City
Cool nice one

I was looking for a site like that tbh, its a lot easier to see if its better FPS wise than all the jargon on the other sites I found lol

Oh yeah i forgot to add i was looking at the 1070 as well and it is around the same price maybe even a tad cheaper. It was just someone saying they would PartX for a lesser card that got me interested in the 980.

I think ill try and get the 1070. That should do me for a bit.
I upgraded from the 970 to the 1070 last year, and the 1070 in HD is capable of running most games maxed out in HD resolution and even in 1440p.

I didn't have much issues with the 970 as it ran most games in HIGH/Ultra settings in HD, as I have not upgraded my monitor yet as waiting for 4K monitors to become better priced.
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
I'm pushing my 970 to play 4K with mixed settings mostly Ultra and normally no AA and lowering the shadows to get 30 FPS, so a 980TI or 1070 would blow my mind lol

I might be able to get a 980TI for £60 if I sell my card, you think that's worth it or should I hold out for a 1070?
 

bsmaff

International
11 August 2003
Welwyn Garden
Exeter City
I'm pushing my 970 to play 4K with mixed settings mostly Ultra and normally no AA and lowering the shadows to get 30 FPS, so a 980TI or 1070 would blow my mind lol

I might be able to get a 980TI for £60 if I sell my card, you think that's worth it or should I hold out for a 1070?
There is pretty much no difference between a 1070 and 980ti, so if you can get a Ti for £60, then I would go for that option.

The 1070 would prob cost an additional £150-£200 on top of a 970, so the 980ti option is by far the better deal.
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
Just what I wanted to hear nice one :TU:

The only issue is that its an Asus GTX 980 Ti Poseidon Platinum which has a hybrid cooling system and one of the pipes has a leak so it can't water cool hence the price. It still run's on air without water cooling and I wouldn't use water cooling anyway but that's all that's putting me off.

What do you think for £220?
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
@bsmaff I've got a buyer for my 970 so it looks like I might be getting this 980 TI.

I could still do with a bit of convincing with the water block being broken though. They are going for £290-300 on eBay so am saving £80 but with it being half broke but still fully working is that saving worth it?
 

bsmaff

International
11 August 2003
Welwyn Garden
Exeter City
Without knowing the full extent of the damage, I am not sure.

Looking at the pictures, it appears the card works with either or anyway, so if the waterblock isn't working, it does not look like it affects the card too much.

Are you buying the card from a friend?
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
Without knowing the full extent of the damage, I am not sure.

Looking at the pictures, it appears the card works with either or anyway, so if the waterblock isn't working, it does not look like it affects the card too much.

Are you buying the card from a friend?
No it's off AVF. He seems a sound bloke reading through his post and he's sold quite a lot of things on there before with no issues. He said it sprung a leak as he was pulling his PC apart but it still works fine.

Here's the pics he put up.

IMG_0992.JPG IMG_0996.JPG IMG_0997.JPG
 

Coopz

Retired Footballer
27 April 2002
Is anyone on here a member of the Overclockers UK forum?

The deal I was doing has fallen through and I'm cardless, so was wondering if anyone who has access to the members market can have a look to see if there are any 980TI or 1070's on there
 
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