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The 'Things That Piss Me Off' Thread

rockstrongo

World Cup Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
Getting pissed off about own goals,a beautiful long shot/chip whatever,hits someone and it's an own goal?

I get it when someone bangs it in to his own net,but deflections etc.
That's bullshit.

Even worse,player A does a few players in,beautiful setup to player B who bangs it in via a deflection,both gets punished by not being in the stats sheet!
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
Getting pissed off about own goals,a beautiful long shot/chip whatever,hits someone and it's an own goal?

I get it when someone bangs it in to his own net,but deflections etc.
That's bullshit.

Even worse,player A does a few players in,beautiful setup to player B who bangs it in via a deflection,both gets punished by not being in the stats sheet!
Is this another crazy ruling brought in, like handball ? Because the way i thought it was, was if the shots original trajectory was heading for the goal then it was
deflected then the goal was awarded to the shot taker, but if it was going to miss, then deflected in, then an own goal.

The way the game is now though, it pisses me off too.
 

rockstrongo

World Cup Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
Is this another crazy ruling brought in, like handball ? Because the way i thought it was, was if the shots original trajectory was heading for the goal then it was
deflected then the goal was awarded to the shot taker, but if it was going to miss, then deflected in, then an own goal.

The way the game is now though, it pisses me off too.
I've seen a few heading for goal,one comes to mind was this weekend when Joaquin in Betis did setup a team mate,took a shoot,on goal,bounced of a defender,changed its trajectory,og shot still in goal,then in goal.
Same with Messi goal last week.

Nevertheless,still sucks for the assist guy
 

Flipper the Priest

Born to score
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
I've seen a few heading for goal,one comes to mind was this weekend when Joaquin in Betis did setup a team mate,took a shoot,on goal,bounced of a defender,changed its trajectory,og shot still in goal,then in goal.
Same with Messi goal last week.

Nevertheless,still sucks for the assist guy
Does this not change country by country? I was of the understanding that in some nations (Italy for one, maybe) any deflection is considered an own goal. Whereas in the UK, if the shot is on target anyway, the attacker gets the goal.

It's made me remember one of my most unpopular "opinions" - Messi's solo goal against Real Madrid in 2011 was an own goal. Come get me!
 

rockstrongo

World Cup Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
Does this not change country by country? I was of the understanding that in some nations (Italy for one, maybe) any deflection is considered an own goal. Whereas in the UK, if the shot is on target anyway, the attacker gets the goal.

It's made me remember one of my most unpopular "opinions" - Messi's solo goal against Real Madrid in 2011 was an own goal. Come get me!
Ha ha :) #grandemessi
Think you're right,me mainly watching La Liga /Serie A (besides my Swedish team) I've noticed that pretty much all is given as an own goal in those two Series,which I think sucks,football is so conservative,I bet there's people guarding that idea firmly,my take is that last player on the ball (offensive player )gets it.
But mainly it's such a backwards logic if you have one setting up a beautiful pass and gets punished by not getting an assist because it's deemed as an own goal.

Got other shit on my mind as well.
Clip someone in the penalty box as a last man,get a red card,penalty for the opposition and most likely a goal up the ass too,triple penalty.
Unless the tackle is wreck less,and would be a red card anywhere else on the pitch,a yellow will do fine for me.

Or give the red card,they score the penalty,change it to a yellow.
Like I said,football is so God damn conservative.
 

Flipper the Priest

Born to score
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
That was actually changed in 2016. If the foul is deemed accidental (preventing a clear and obvious goalscoring opportunity) it's yellow. Deliberate, red.

Aberdeen found this out the hard way just weeks after the rule change:


The less said about what happened later in that game, the better.

Rules are twisted in football and it just lurches from one furore to another. This current handball hubbub, for example, will gather dust until the next one comes along. There's not enough sustained anger to force change. And it's downplayed just how much players, managers and clubs could affect change if they really wanted to.
 

rockstrongo

World Cup Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
That was actually changed in 2016. If the foul is deemed accidental (preventing a clear and obvious goalscoring opportunity) it's yellow. Deliberate, red.

Aberdeen found this out the hard way just weeks after the rule change:


The less said about what happened later in that game, the better.

Rules are twisted in football and it just lurches from one furore to another. This current handball hubbub, for example, will gather dust until the next one comes along. There's not enough sustained anger to force change. And it's downplayed just how much players, managers and clubs could affect change if they really wanted to.
Hand ball rule is so out of whack,last season you could get a yellow mid pitch,but not in the pen box.
They've most likely changed it this year again.
Since they have var nowadays it shouldn't be that hard to sort out,is it deliberate?
Do you make yourself bigger?
Etc etc.
A ball bouncing up on someone's hand by mistake,not giving the the defending team an advantage should never be a pen
 

Flipper the Priest

Born to score
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
I'm not envious of the rule makers on that one. The intent argument would quickly fall down when a clearly accidental handball stops a goal or clear-cut chance. Some unintentional handballs have to be punished in my opinion.

I think it should be determined by whether a handball prevents a "promising attack" or "obvious goalscoring opportunity". Both terms outlined in the laws. Yellow and red cards, respectively, for deliberate offences only. Also maybe consider making accidental handballs punishable by indirect free kicks instead.

Anyway... how we're still charged admin fees for entirely computerised transactions.
 

mattmid

Champions League
15 December 2011
I'm still angry with no League Mode in PES 2013.... probably the best PES since PES 6.
Me too (you can play out a league mode of sorts in ML by turning off transfers)

Getting pissed off about own goals,a beautiful long shot/chip whatever,hits someone and it's an own goal?

I get it when someone bangs it in to his own net,but deflections etc.
That's bullshit.

Even worse,player A does a few players in,beautiful setup to player B who bangs it in via a deflection,both gets punished by not being in the stats sheet!
Related to that why don't they just have a chances created stat that is more important instead of assists. They do keep it now but you never see it. After all if player A goes past 3 players in a mazy dribble, squares it to player B in front of the goal who slices it wide, that's hardly player A's fault that player B is shit and couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo.

Clip someone in the penalty box as a last man,get a red card,penalty for the opposition and most likely a goal up the ass too,triple penalty.
I always thought it would be a nice twist to say to the attacking team (if it's a deliberate foul stopping a goal, such as a player diving on the line to handle it) - you decide,. Their player goes off and it's a penalty or he stays on and you get given the goal.


Anyway... how we're still charged admin fees for entirely computerised transactions.
That massively pisses me off too.


Mine for today is whoever has the money for the EFL Trophy tickets that was supposed to be played in March and couldn't because of coronavirus. Around 60,000 tickets were sold in total and somebody is still sitting on that money, well over a million pounds. No chance of it being played for months yet I would think but no mention of refunds. It's already over six months they've had it. It's not even about the money, it's the principle of it. Imagine if it were the other way around. We'll go to the game and pay you for it next year. Oh and ticketmaster had their £2.50 admin fee for all those too.
They could have just played the game anyway by now, long since lost interest in it!
 

Buzzy

Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
14 December 2006
Cyberspace
Liverpool
Mine for today is whoever has the money for the EFL Trophy tickets that was supposed to be played in March and couldn't because of coronavirus. Around 60,000 tickets were sold in total andwell over a million somebody is still sitting on that money, pounds. No chance of it being played for months yet I would think but no mention of refunds. It's already over six months they've had it. It's not even about the money, it's the principle of it. Imagine if it were the other way around. We'll go to the game and pay you for it next year. Oh and ticketmaster had their £2.50 admin fee for all those too.
They could have just played the game anyway by now, long since lost interest in it!
Crafty gits! as of a few years back ( not sure about today's market) that would have earned you a £1000 a week interest.
They love making money out of "thin air" just like the bank's. Also pisses me off with online gambling site's, so happy to take your money in an instant, but when collecting winnings it takes 2-3 working days to come back, once again ensuring it sits in the bank a bit longer. :SNACK::RANT:
 

mattmid

Champions League
15 December 2011
Also pisses me off with online gambling site's, so happy to take your money in an instant, but when collecting winnings it takes 2-3 working days to come back, once again ensuring it sits in the bank a bit longer. :SNACK::RANT:
That's if they haven't already limited your stakes for having the 'cheek' to win.
 

rockstrongo

World Cup Winner
25 August 2006
Sweden
Hammarby
Related to that why don't they just have a chances created stat that is more important instead of assists. They do keep it now but you never see it. After all if player A goes past 3 players in a mazy dribble, squares it to player B in front of the goal who slices it wide, that's hardly player A's fault that player B is shit and couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo.
That should deffo be put in the stat,I mean smart scouts/managers/fans recognise anyway,but since stats are a big part signing new contracts etc,it's needed to have stuff like that down in paper somehow.

I always thought it would be a nice twist to say to the attacking team (if it's a deliberate foul stopping a goal, such as a player diving on the line to handle it) - you decide,. Their player goes off and it's a penalty or he stays on and you get given the goal.
It's a tasty idea, wouldn't mind it.
 

Flipper the Priest

Born to score
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
Crafty gits! as of a few years back ( not sure about today's market) that would have earned you a £1000 a week interest.
They love making money out of "thin air" just like the bank's. Also pisses me off with online gambling site's, so happy to take your money in an instant, but when collecting winnings it takes 2-3 working days to come back, once again ensuring it sits in the bank a bit longer. :SNACK::RANT:
That's if they haven't already limited your stakes for having the 'cheek' to win.
Years ago I won a fair windfall (just short of five figures) and what a caper. It took weeks to get to my bank account. And when it did I was on holiday, so when I started splashing the cash my bank account was frozen. When the fun starts, stop.
 

Flipper the Priest

Born to score
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
Shoe's on the other foot in my house. I'm the recycling ultra. But recycling poses its own frustrations. There's tremendous pressure to recycle but it's still very hard to tell whether some packaging is or isn't. Labelling is still useless in some cases. I have an 'if in doubt, do' mantra - the people at the waste centre can sort it. Literally.

But - and here's something that pissed me off - I retrieved our newly-empty recycling wheelie bin from the kerb the other week and some dickhead had put dog shit in it. Bagged, granted, but no excuse. I was raging. I'm too polite to put rubbish in others' bins when mine are full, let alone an erroneous deposit like that.
 

ronin2000

Non-League
19 October 2020
The players as G. Xhaka and company who have sold their soul, and for that matter anybody that denies their lineage. They make millions from their club, why chose to play for Switzerland national team also? All they think is money, no self respect, so I say f them, blood is not thinner than water. No one will take any money with us once we gone nor will mean a shit, so live your life with self respect.
 
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Chris Davies

Chief PESsimist
Staff
14 May 2003
Tranmere Rovers
The players as G. Xhaka and company who have sold their soul, and for that matter anybody that denies their lineage. They make millions from their club, why chose to play for Switzerland national team also? All they think is money, no self respect, so I say f them, blood is not thinner than water. No one will take any money with us once we gone nor will mean a shit, so live your life with self respect.
Wait, what? He's Swiss, right? What's the issue?
 

slamsoze

Champions League
28 September 2010
Wait, what? He's Swiss, right? What's the issue?
He is "Swiss" by Albanian immigrants parents. His brother, Taulant Xhaka plays for Albania NT.

As for the general topic, since modern football, all FCs are companies and all National Teams are mostly marketing gimmicks to promote, so I don't feel angry about occasions like this. Diego Costa playing for Spain, Deco playing for Portugal.
They are all decisions marketing-wise made by both players and NT federations.

The only player I know, that had some ideology over money, was the NBA top player Dirk Nowitzki, who used to pay the money insurance to his NBA team in order to play with Germany Basketball NT.

Or Totti that stayed exclusively to As Roma.

Basically of course it depends on each one's POV, but professional athletes are still professionals. So they make decisions depending on their career profit and not their heritage.

Good or bad, this is the world we live in.
 
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ronin2000

Non-League
19 October 2020
Wait, what? He's Swiss, right? What's the issue?
His parents are Albanian and his entire heritage along his name is Albanian. He was born in Kosovo but got Swiss passport also. Many other of his peers in same situation choose to play for Albania. It's a choice. He made that choice because he doesn't get exposed or acknowledged form Clubs by playing with Albania or Kosovo has nothing to do with rest, his focus was on his Career.
 

Flipper the Priest

Born to score
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
I've always thought that players should have to declare a national side when they turn professional. Nationality shouldn't be as fluid as it is by FIFA's standards. Having naturalised players undervalues the purpose of international football and it doesn't sit well with me when players are poached or just decide to exploit their eligibility for a lesser footballing nation later in their career.
 

slamsoze

Champions League
28 September 2010
I've always thought that players should have to declare a national side when they turn professional. Nationality shouldn't be as fluid as it is by FIFA's standards. Having naturalised players undervalues the purpose of international football and it doesn't sit well with me when players are poached or just decide to exploit their eligibility for a lesser footballing nation later in their career.
Do you know that football has from the most strickt rules regarding nationalities? I mean you can have played for any U-21 natioanl team and then go to anothers Men's team, but once you played for a men's, you never go back. On basketball and volleyball you can change national team even in Men's level, when you match some criteria, like passport, etc.

And technically now it happens as you described, once you play for a Men's NT team, you are playing for them for life.
 

Flipper the Priest

Born to score
15 July 2003
Aberdeen
It's only competitive games. You could play for one country in a friendly and then turn your back on them (like Diego Costa).

I know it's stricter than most other sports (I know in some solo disciplines athletes will represent whoever funds them) but it just doesn't seem strict enough to me! I think where you were brought up defines your nationality, not where you play your football.
 
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