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i'm now using a slim-line PS2 which cost me $129, and 'swap magic 3.6 + xcm delux slim tool' which cost me $30. at $159, it plays just as good - if not better than a slim-line PS2 modded with a DMS4 chip! trust me, because i had one before i busted it in frustration months ago playing WE10 (japanese version)! i paid close to $300 for it