You're doing better than me. I can't get through a half on either game at the moment. Looks like it's PES 2013 and FIFA 16 for me for now...Someone bought me PES2021.
I've played one half and didn't turn it off in disgust. By recent standards that's a win.
Will investigate further later.
Seems very very strange not having AC Milan licensed in Pro though.
I put FIFA 21 on yesterday, legendary - first 2 minutes I completely split the defence wide open with 2 passes and walked into an open goal. No resistance at all. Turned it straight off. Literally had the game on for 3 mins haha.To be fair I never went back to it. Finally started playing The Talos Principle instead.
And world class difficulty? Isnt Legendary bugged?I put FIFA 21 on yesterday, legendary - first 2 minutes I completely split the defence wide open with 2 passes and walked into an open goal. No resistance at all. Turned it straight off. Literally had the game on for 3 mins haha.
This. Sums up how I feel so well. But I was at this point by about March of this year with these games - I've done the grieving, I'm now at the acceptance stage.It's just heartbreaking, man. To think of the excitement I had as a kid playing PES, at where I thought the game would be 20 years later.
Exactly this, Far more responsive than 2020. So enjoyable to play and of course it looks good, player models etc. I've played football at various levels, currently work for a premiership club and although PES is not perfect, its the best playable football game out currently. Not perfect but enjoyable and thats what is important to me.I might be in the minority here, but I was happy enough with PES2020, got the season update and im really enjoying it, feels totally different, more responsive with a wide variety of goals, im also just getting into manual which is making it even more interesting.I bought FIFA20 recently on the store for around 6 quid, everything about it was good until I played the actual game, its just not close to resembling football.Ive been reading and watching reviews for FIFA21 and it seems like theyve made it even worse.
Spot on man. After going through this exact cycle during 18/19/20, I sampled both 21 games and immediately came to the same conclusion as you. I’ve instead decided to go back to older games for the last 6 months or so, trying some I missed out on, playing some I loved back in the day. I’ve been so much less frustrated going down this path. I’m really enjoying what some of the older titles bring and I feel like I’ve gained more than I’ve lost by playing these games. It’s actually ridiculous how much better they are gameplay wise.I still havent bought either game this year, but im following the threads and people opinions.
Its the same story as last couple of years. People desperately trying to find their sweet spot with settings, tactics, sliders, patches..
When Pes is getting too much - they go to Fifa, initially being amazed by atmosphere, randomness and shooting variety. After a while, when braindead AI is getting too much - they go back to PES and initially feel like things have improved. AI Player movements of the ball seems much better, AI seems more varied (where really is just an illusion, coz patterns are different on Fifa), there are fouls..
Eventually - shallow and limited shooting is getting too much, AI does the same things, matches are scripted to constantly provide artificial drama, so they go back to FIFA again.
And so it goes.. its kinda weird reading all this, coz all im thinking is
"That was me last 3 years. Bouncing from one game to another, changing sliders every few games, starting new master leagues with different teams and settings, hoping that this time will be different, then going back to Pes/Fifa 18/17 and so on.."
I dont know what the future hold for football games, im not really hyped for '22. Id rather be pleasantly surprised than very dissappointed.
But one thing I know is that football games, in their current state, dont deserve our frustration and all the work we put into them to make them work a tiny bit better.
It’s interesting when your eyes are fresh from modern pes and you go back to it just how chaotic it looks. I feel like it looks a bit like an NFL game, just vertical running all the time, no settling in position.I downloaded and installed the lates pesunites option file, and its great! Huge effort from the guys behind it!
the game it’s used in isn’t just holding up to that level of quality though!
Played PES2021 today after some weeks of FIFA16 only. I can only find joy in the latter! One aspect really is the AI and how it uses space. At least that’s one mayor thing contributing to the kind of football I want to see/play! I can’t go back to PES at the moment!
never thought I’d say that.
yes, one of the worst parts when i got back, was the fast play forward... a lot of space plus 2 laser guided passes and the AI was in front of my penalty area! insane! and then the game was moving from one side to the other so fast... counter attack football none stop. well, you can stop it, when YOU have the ball and play around the AI's pen area! when YOU decide to do so, not the AI forcing you to do so! and in real life, its a mix of both, imo!It’s interesting when your eyes are fresh from modern pes and you go back to it just how chaotic it looks. I feel like it looks a bit like an NFL game, just vertical running all the time, no settling in position.