The Retro-PES Corner

I already tried to install the default dgvoodoo. Can't launch either.
I don't have any stuttering issues, i just wanted to upscale the internal resolution.

In which case just use a screen.width/height in kserv.cfg that's higher than your display resolution.

The screen.width/height setting in kitserver 3 seems to affect both the screen resolution and the internal resolution, whereas in kitserver 6 etc. we had to wait for the internal.resolution.width/height function to be added as dx.fullscreen.width/height did nothing for internal resolution.
 
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BUT, there are a couple of things to consider:

-Starting a ML with the defaults, immediately puts you on a steeper difficulty curve
-I try not to force plays on the sides and crosses, where the cpu is objectively a bit weaker, but I only use them when a plausible action flow takes life (not that it is a granted goal anyway).

That said, to me it's a good challenge, and I've had a very good number of games that felt impossible to win even when I forced my hand. Maybe I'm just not that good, so I don't know.
I think that if you are just behind a pure challenge, tho, there are way more unforgiving retro-pes (12 and 13 on top of them all to me).
Have you mastered or figured out the penalty kick taking in pes 201? It was a big mystery when I executed aiming with d-pad or keyboard.
 
Have you mastered or figured out the penalty kick taking in pes 201? It was a big mystery when I executed aiming with d-pad or keyboard.

"Mastered" is a big word :D , as 1) it still feels clunky 2)there aren't this many penalties in general.. however, from what I understood, by pressing up/down during the run up you can give the right/left direction to the ball.. at the opposite, with the right/left buttons you decide how much height you're gonna give your shoot.

The more you press, in both cases, the more direction you apply, so unlike practically all the other penalties of the saga it's very easy to send the ball out.
 
Been away for the weekend, nice to be back and read through the thread. Finished Match Day 2 of my World Cup 2002 Series on PES 6...

Match Day 2 gets underway with rescue efforts beginning for the likes of Spain, Italy & Portugal who experienced shock defeats in the openers. Some thrilling games and some stunning goals await in Episode 2!

And hope you don't mind me sharing a couple of clips from Match Day 1!

 
@MafiaMurderBag: Great stuff, as always your game is looking so fine with that brilliant camera mod. And can't argue about the realism there, as Portugal seems on the verge of dropping out on the group stage, as it happened in real-life's 02 WC. :D
 
ML United - Season 9 - Generations Mode challenge
A week ago I was going for a PS2 gaming session, after months of not playing anything on the console, but had no idea what to play. Said to myself, let's roll with whatever I had left on the tray, and turns out, it was the glorious PES08 PS2.

A few guys here might remember my Generations Mode challenge with the ML Defaults on the Master League mode.

I had put in 8 seasons of save, and quit playing it after conquering the treble: League, Cup and WEFA Championships. However, this time I felt compelled to reload the save, check out the team and how the players evolved, and maybe play a few matches just for the sake of it.

Well, turns out, I can't play PES08 PS2 "just for the sake of it" :LOL: this game pulls you in and before you realize it, you've just played half a season without noticing :D Also, it's fair to say that I'm really attached to this squad, and playing with these guys is always fun.

I'm now close to the end of Season 9 and, coincidentally, not only it has been the most exciting season of them all but also one of the most exciting I've ever had on any ML on any PES. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say someone or something is doing this on purpose to pull me back in to this save. I must've played around 30 matches or so this season; well, I wouldn't be exaggerating to say that probably only 5 of them were boring. Besides those, every single one was either really interesting or an instant classic. I'm dead serious. Almost everything that could happen on a football match has happened to me this season.

Midway through S9 I was already far away from Benfica and Galatasaray, the top 2 of the league, and just 3 points away from the relegation spots. Remember, we'd won the treble last season! Fortunately, our cup runs were much brighter, as we were able to clinch the 1st place of a WEFA group with North London, Bayern Munchen and Real Madrid (!!!) - with 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss (0-4 at home vs Bayern...). Currently, we're on the WEFA Championships semifinals (vs Galatasaray) and also we're on the D1 Cup semifinals vs...Galatasaray!

On the 1st leg of the WEFA quarter-finals, we met Liverpool...ahem, Merseyside Red at home and this happened...
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It could've easily been 10/11-0 with the clear chances we created...
On the 2nd leg, I play all the reserves and ageing (as in, "goddamn old") underachievers like Burchet, Ceciu and Stremer...we were winning 2-0 when our 18-year-old debutant keeper forgets we were playing football, not american football, and tackles the quarterback...I mean, the attacker, while he didn't even have the ball. Instant-red-card, penalty, and I have to play Lothar (Lethal Lothar), a guy who literally hasn't played a competitive football match in more than 4 years! Fernando Torres takes the penalty, Lothar defends it, holds on to the ball, and then turns his back on the game, faces the Liverpool fans behind the goal and spends a good 7/8 seconds standing still, staring them down, with me pressing all the buttons to see if he could carry on with the match :D fortunately he did, and on the 20 min. he played, he not only didn't concede but defended a couple of very difficult shots.
Certainly the best of the 6 total matches he played in 9 years so far. Zamenhof shed a tear.

As for the league, we picked up the pace on the latter half of the season and are now 3rd with 5 matches until the end of the season. Benfica is 1st and is 6 points ahead, while Galatasaray is 2nd, 5 points away. Though it seems we'll clinch a WEFA qualification spot - and we certainly had to fight for it -, our chances at qualifying directly to the best of the WEFA competitions are not quite so good, as only the top 2 of the league get that perk.
We still have a match against Benfica so I wouldn't say we're out of the title race either, but I believe the European Superleague will see another winner this year.

Anyhow, here's a couple of interesting screens.
- Ceciu became the oldest player to play a match for ML United, surpassing Espimas and Iouga, I think, who were both 40 when they played their last match.
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Given he'll retire by the end of this season (alongside a 38-year-old Burchet), I don't know when this milestone will be beaten...if ever.

- Gutierrez became the first ML United player to score 200 goals for the club!
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...and is well-positioned to become the first to get 300 appearances for the club as well. Some say his motivation is the fact that he had been cut off of @Madmac79's roster on his PES11 save, and he used that rage to get back at his previous manager and show the world what he's really made of.

Also, paging @WhoAteMeDinner...I had a match in which I couldn't field two natural strikers (injuries + red cards + accumulated fatigue + accumulated yellow cards...) so I said f*ck it, this one's for Dinner, I'll field in Sousa there. One goal, two assists. I see no reason why this should work but goddamn it, you were right and it did :D

Last but not least, given two players will retire by the end of the season, according to the rules of the Generations Mode challenge, I'll be able to sign two newcomers. Our starting-11 is peaking, as many are reaching the 28-32 years of age, and most of them are not evolving stats anymore. I have to start thinking about a short-term replacement for Stein (34 years old) and a left-footed wingback/sidemidfielder/sideback to replace Ruskin. Another CB wouldn't be so bad too.

The season is now over and it has certainly been a bittersweet one.

First of all, the league: we blew our chances after 3 matches without a win to put us out of the top 2, hence also out of the WEFA Championships 2nd group stage - we'll have to play a preliminary group stage beforehand to qualify for that 2nd one. Galatasaray and Benfica kept winning and by the last fixtures, they were the only teams fighting for the title.
This negative sequence put as also at risk of...not even qualifying to the WEFA competitions at all (!) as the difference between us and the teams who were not in the league's Top 6 (top 6 participate in the WEFA) was sharply reduced.

3 fixtures to go, and we meet Sporting, who was 7th and just 5 points away from us. If we lost that match, we'd have a lot of pressure on our backs being just 2 points away from the 7th place. At halftime it was 1-1, but Sporting was playing much better football. Fortunately, the inevitable Gutierrez appeared in style: dribbled out the CB, got 1on1 with the keeper, sent a beautiful left-footed lob to put us ahead 2-1. We'd end up winning it 3-1 and clinching our place in the WEFA competitions next year.

Over the last two matches, we were only fighthing for a better league position - but in the end it mattered little if we finished 3th or 6th as our fate was already defined. We ended up holding on to the 3rd place with two wins on the last two matches.

As for the title run, and the Superleague would definitely see a different winner this time as current title holders ML United were away from this battle, Benfica got a very large advantage over everyone else early on in the season; however, they lost "gas" over time and allowed Galatasaray to sneak in and steal the 1st place with just two matches to go.
On the last fixture, Gala was just 3 points ahead and could theoretically still lose it, but while the turkish team won their match, Benfica lost and lost the title as well.

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Galatasaray wins their first Superleague title, after a disappointing 2nd half of season by Benfica. At one point, Bayern was out of the WEFA but sneaked back, but barely. Copenhagen's season was surprising, probably the worst roster of the Top 6.
As for ML United, our prolific offense was not enough given how inconsistent we were over the whole length of the year.

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I don't remember but I believe Gutierrez is the league's top scorer for at least 4 years in a row :D The man is indeed a machine, and this season he has beaten the record for most goals scored (by any player of any team, not just ML United's).

D1 Cup: ML United wins it for the 3rd year in a row - 4th win in 5 years. We needed extra-time to pull it off, and grab the title away from Benfica - once again.
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WEFA Championships: We reached the finals against Valencia, one of the best teams in the world right now.
As some might recall, my goalkeeper Fredriksson is a set piece specialist, so he's in charge of taking corners as well. Well, after more than 200 matches, only twice we've conceded a goal due to the fact that the guy is not on his goal and basically leaves it completely open :D: a league match a few seasons ago (we won that match anyway) and...the freakin WEFA Championships final. So David Silva found an empty goal and scored, which gave Valencia a 1-0 win they'd hold on to until the end of the match: the Championships title goes to Spain.

But no, I wouldn't change a thing. On the next match, Fredriksson was once again - and as always - taking every and any corner we got. And after the WEFA loss, we had 3 matches to play, Fredriksson grabbed two cornerkick assists.
 
@MafiaMurderBag: Great stuff, as always your game is looking so fine with that brilliant camera mod. And can't argue about the realism there, as Portugal seems on the verge of dropping out on the group stage, as it happened in real-life's 02 WC. :D

Thanks, yeah i love customizing the game to get the presentation as nice as possible. Gutted that you can't have player names over the heads of the AI as we get in the current games so i can remove the name plates too. Yup, gotta love the drama of a World Cup and they way PES instills that in the game. France, Portugal and Argentina all in trouble after one game. The Group Stages start telling their own stories and that's the magic.

What camera height are you using, @MafiaMurderBag ? And it's Normal Long/Broadcasting settings I suppose?

I use the camera module in the kitserver config, there's just one value and i change it to 800. That camera i'm playing on is Normal - Medium but the angle value affects all of the Normal camera angles.

And finally a long range missile from Paul Scholes!

 
I can't believe how people can play with that camera angle. Don't get me wrong, it looks awesome and all but it doesn't work for me sadly ... can't play like that not even to save my life lol
 
I can't believe how people can play with that camera angle. Don't get me wrong, it looks awesome and all but it doesn't work for me sadly ... can't play like that not even to save my life lol
You and me both! Looks great to watch but as soon as the camera angle rotates and I'm aiming at goal from an angle (rather than straight-on), I'm hitting the corner flag when I shoot... The modern FIFA games' co-op camera is my all-time favourite!
 
I can't believe how people can play with that camera angle. Don't get me wrong, it looks awesome and all but it doesn't work for me sadly ... can't play like that not even to save my life lol

You and me both! Looks great to watch but as soon as the camera angle rotates and I'm aiming at goal from an angle (rather than straight-on), I'm hitting the corner flag when I shoot... The modern FIFA games' co-op camera is my all-time favourite!

Thanks, I know where you guys are coming from, but it's not actually difficult to play on at all as it's not the actual Broadcast Camera, it's actually Normal-Medium with modded angle/height value. I love the low swinging look of the broadcast cam but i can't play on it either because the controls actually become isometric. This isn't an issue on the angle i'm using here.
 
Maan, I'm so damn tilted by my Pes 2011 run :CONF:!

With a very limited roster I'm doing good in the League, being fourth as of now, but the Cups.. well, tragedy!

I've lost 2-0 against Fiorentina in the first round of the national Cup, will be very hard to turn it back;

I'm sadly out of EL for good after a tragicomic round, in which I draw my first two games against MAn City and Blookrows (fake teams) and being OBLITERATED against Aek Athene.. 0-2 and 3-0 in Greece.. never saw that coming.. it was all more or less fair and square tho..

In the crucial second game against Man City, instead, I had first this penalty denied to me (you can appreciate the DOUBLE foul :LMAO:):


And then, this completely laughable one:


Given to the Cityzens :SIL:! They scored and I lost.. complete tilt. In my head canon I justify this refereeing with Riganpool being a young, not european famous team, still very low in the rangkins.. so they still don't respect us. Was pretty bullshit anyway:LOL:.

Loved, anyway, that with still a turn to go, they celebrated their mathematical promotion to the next phase while my players laid there in discomfort for the opposite. I think they removed it in the recent years or something, if I'm not wrong..
 
@Madmac79: Where's VAR when one needs it the most? :D It was all rigged against Riganpool...

I have found my PES11 disk so I installed the game rightaway, but haven't sampled the gameplay properly yet. Anyway, I was browsing the modes and stuff when I stumbled upon the much-beloved-and-not-yet-forgotten-hero-of-yesteryear, AKA, the Stadium Editor (/creator)! I honestly was convinced that it had only been introduced in 2012/13, so I was quite surprised to see it there.
 
@miguelfcp mate! I haven't touched the editing section at all and I had no memory there was the stadium editor in this game. I was convinced, like you, that they introduced it later on.

Something tells me that the works for a new home for Riganpool.. might start soon enough :TWIST:
 
I've just started a new game. I'm aiming to play out the entire season in various ways. All 18 teams will be human controlled but I'm mixing around how I play them out. At the moment the plan is as follows

Round 1 Play as all home teams
Round 2 Play as all home teams
Round 3 Play as all away teams
Round 4 Play as all away teams

Depending how balanced the fixture list is that should give me 2 home games and 2 away games with each team.

Round 5 Play as away team first half, home team second half.
Round 6 Play as away team first half, home team second half

then...

Round 7 Play as one player on home team
Round 8 Play as one player on home team
Round 9 Play as one player on away team
Round 10 Play as one player on away team

Repeat from step 1.


I'm playing out a PES6 OF I'm working on at the moment. I'm going to play out the Serie A 01/02 season.


Round 1 is now complete.
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Juventus and Inter share the early lead with convincing 3-0 victories over Venezia and Brescia, whilst Milan were held at home by Torino with some great defending that stopped everything Milan could throw at them. Lazio stole a late victory in the Roma Derby when Inzaghi nicked an 85th minute winner against the run of play.

A clinical first half from Lecce saw them go in 2-1 up from just 2 shots. They bossed the second half though adding a third to round out the victory. Two goalless draws were played out at Fiorentina and Udinese while Verona picked up a good win at Perugia with Gilardinho netting twice. In the final match of the round Atalanta convincingly beat Bologna by two goals to nil with Rossini earning an 8.5 for his man of the match performance.

Contichello of Lecce picked up a knock and will miss the next game but there's a clean bill of health for everyone else.


Of note is that I didn't pick up a single booking in all 10 games! Although it has to be said there was some pretty lenient refereeing going on including a blatant penalty on Di Michele of Udinese who was clearly hacked down from behind when in on goal by a Parma defender.
 
@Madmac79 The first clip is comical and certainly a penalty but sorry, player got the ball in the second clip!

Yeah.. my player took the ball 100% clean and they gave that penalty to the cpu team all the same:CRY:. A bit baffling but it's kinda pretty rare, anyway. I've had another penalty given against me for a clear ball contrast some games ago but it's just 2 in 2 and half seasons.. it's acceptable.

Talking about, I must say I like fouls management in this game.. in some matches I have few, in some others I get even 8-9.. good variety.
 
@mattmid at the cost of sounding stupid.. but are you playing that season from the League? Like, is it even possible to select all those teams? Or are you doing it by friendlies, keeping note of the results yourself?

Sorry but I played so few Leagues in my Pes life, that the doubt came out itself..
 
@Madmac79: It seems you can even import your own pics to create a unique stadium "background", replace the adboards and such...didn't remember any of this.

@mattmid: Back in the saddle of PES6 editing! What's the plan there, a legends OF?
 
Played a bit of Football Kingdom last night for the first time in a long while.

Game isn't that great to be honest, lacks the depth and quality of Retro PES games from that era but still, it was still nice to see other developers try their hand at the sport before licensing became ruthless and made it impossible for devs to market new football games.

The game has a very "This is Football" feel to it in terms of animations and shooting. The main thing to remember is the game was quite ambitious and possibly the first to experiment with 360 dribbling and manual passing and crossing. back when i was a kid, i played PES 4 & 5 so much that i wore them out and longed for an alternative that wasn't the even shittier FIFA. This and International Superstar Soccer 2 on the PS2 would've been fun distractions for a short while if i could've got my hands on them at the time.


 
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