eFootball PES 2021 Discussion Thread (CONSOLES)

Keep in mind that Brazil's a country like no other in regards to licensing and contracts... The legislation needed to be changed so the country would abide to FIFpro which it actually subscribes (what an irony) and Clubs couldn't BS saying that they pay 30 as wager and 70 as likeness and imaging. This whole crap should be illegal, because it looks like it's sort of TAX fraud (players declare less, clubs declare less, etc) and when clubs don't want to pay players they claim their salaries are on schedule it's just the other stuff that's due. And also having to individually negotiate with every player to have them featured in a game is borderline moronic imo but its seems that only the biggest absurd goes sadly

I know, I'm brazilian, I know how things are bad regarding licensing in Brazil. My point is that there are loads of players already in the game, why don't place them in their actual teams? Why do we have to wait for updates? This doesn't make sense at all!
 
I know, I'm brazilian, I know how things are bad regarding licensing in Brazil. My point is that there are loads of players already in the game, why don't place them in their actual teams? Why do we have to wait for updates? This doesn't make sense at all!
Well, if it serves as some kind of "solace" (per say), I just saw a gameplay video (which show some some ridiculous reactions by both CPU defender, and CPU controlled attacker on the other team) in which Raktic is still in Barcelona... :ROLL:

Yep, some season update...
 
Well, if it serves as some kind of "solace" (per say), I just saw a gameplay video (which show some some ridiculous reactions by both CPU defender, and CPU controlled attacker on the other team) in which Raktic is still in Barcelona... :ROLL:

Yep, some season update...

I really don't get it, in just one day ONE person can do all the transfers isn't something hard to do.
 
Need some help here...
I bought PES2020 on Steam. So I'm seeing 2021 at 39.99 (CAN$) for the special editions but 42.99 for the Standard Edition?? So, I have to pay... more? for the regular edition? And where does my discount for owning 2020 factor in? Is the game more than that for people who don't own 2020?
The special editions are discounted for you because you own PES 2020. Basically, they want everyone to buy a special edition instead of the regular game.
 
This Season Update is very much like any well put together DT18 mod on the PC for 2020.

+ Game is more physical. Its easier to hold up the ball with the right player and easier to brush light players off the ball.
+ Tackling speed is reduced.
+ Start animation of the players are better hence you can burst and dribble faster and draw fouls.
+ There are "more" fouls called (its still a mess, sometimes i got a foul for a clear tackle too).
+ Cpu shots more often from long range.
+ First touches are heavier.

- Direct free kicks are OP
- CPU attacking pattern havent changed a bit. Its still the same old pass back run forward to receive the low/high through ball or pass it to the forward who turns and shoots. Stars like Messi or Ronaldo play like Smalling, very scared to dribble they right away pass the ball rather like a hot potato.
- You can still sit on the ball for 90 mins in your own half without the cpu approaching you.
- Goalkeepers are OP

And of course all the rest of negative aspects are there and untouched anything you can think of tactics wise, etc.
Too bad the CPU is a potato and they havent touched it at all. However i would say the game might can be a good on couch PVP experience for a year....just u know dont score from free kicks or lower all players fk rating to 40.
 
Need some help here...
I bought PES2020 on Steam. So I'm seeing 2021 at 39.99 (CAN$) for the special editions but 42.99 for the Standard Edition?? So, I have to pay... more? for the regular edition? And where does my discount for owning 2020 factor in? Is the game more than that for people who don't own 2020?
you should have brought it from cd keys
 
2k is now EA and Konami tier, that is, bad. Another football game made by Sony like This is Football would be great though.
2K is now? Dude 2k was always the real deal, the professional casino based on addicted people.
It is an insult to place them in same tier with the footy coin-sellers.

EA and Konami are just a couple of "amateurs", basing their strategy on youngsters who may steal their mommy's credit card.

2k are the real pros/masterminds in this topic. Micro Trans for everything, shady loot boxes, and product placement between gameplay/cutscenes, at least for the last 10 years.
 
As the tweaks are minor, I make it short for tonight. it’s a polished 2020 early code for me. A slightly better vanilla or demo.
not really worth upgrading if you own the 2020 disc to be honest. Edit: Maybe for the updated roosters.
i like the few new animations and collisions of ball and player are a bit better. R2 finesse shot seems a bit tighter too. Bit more responsive.

cant wait for 2022!

#losethemshackles

edit2: these are my early impressions after i had 4 matches (20 min, like always everything set to FUMA, professional). i'll be back with a few more insights.
 
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Anybody with the PS4 disc version, does it still make your PS4 sound like a jet engine?

Aye. Same as any other year. Not sure what it is about PES but it makes a PS4 go loopy. It honestly wrecks my head, I have to play with headphones on!

I'm not sensing (m)any changes from 2020 thus far, based on a flurry of friendlies. Going head first into a Master League. Might as well, it's the only mode I'll play.

Sprint speed, strength, defensive positioning - I'll see you on the other side.
 
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2K is now? Dude 2k was always the real deal, the professional casino based on addicted people.
It is an insult to place them in same tier with the footy coin-sellers.

EA and Konami are just a couple of "amateurs", basing their strategy on youngsters who may steal their mommy's credit card.

2k are the real pros/masterminds in this topic. Micro Trans for everything, shady loot boxes, and product placement between gameplay/cutscenes, at least for the last 10 years.
I agree, but not with the "10 years" part... Maybe 5 years. From NBA 2k11 to 2k14, they were the absolute pinnacle of what sports games should be. Starting with 2k15, it went straight downhill to the absolute atrocity that it is today.
 
Can't get the 20% off from the Club edition on steam to work even when i choose that option through the ingame menu. Am i missing something?
 
So San Siro wasn't included even though it's owned by the council and not AC or Inter? I'll be looking for squad updates for 2020 once the transfer window shuts.
 
Aye. Same as any other year. Not sure what it is about PES but it makes a PS4 go loopy. It honestly wrecks my head, I have to play with headphones on!

I'm not sensing (m)any changes from 2020 thus far, based on a flurry of friendlies. Going head first into a Master League. Might as well, it's the only mode I'll play.

Sprint speed, strength, defensive positioning - I'll see you on the other side.

The excessive PS4 fan noise started when they added that Enlighten lighting to the game. 2020' is easily the noisiest game I've ever played, worse than TLOU2, RDR2 or Horizon which is pretty crazy really.
 
As the tweaks are minor, I make it short for tonight. it’s a polished 2020 early code for me. A slightly better vanilla or demo.
not really worth upgrading if you own the 2020 disc to be honest. Edit: Maybe for the updated roosters.
i like the few new animations and collisions of ball and player are a bit better. R2 finesse shot seems a bit tighter too. Bit more responsive.

cant wait for 2022!

#losethemshackles

+1 some new animations make the job either (I've noticed a new corner kick animation (?) ), but it's definitely something we should get throughout PES 2020 updates period when KONAMI had plenty of time and tones of feedback regardings these points you have mentioned above and they should implement it way, way earlier either not waiting the whole year to make just a few improvements over the gameplay which we, users have been reporting about for the entire year. It is a polished PES 2020 but I would say it's not worth £20 at all. Especially if you play on PC where you could get a PES 2020 gameplay really successfully tweaked by the modders who also managed to make the game more responsive than it originally came in first place systematically working on crucial points of gameplay to make it more playable.

I think it won't take long to get sider and other mods compatible with 2021, so I'll stay with PES 2021 as I bought it already. But it also depends on DP 1.0, which may fuck the game up again and this is what we need to be prepared for, unfortunately.

If this is what KONAMI could make of the current generation - fine. I should be ok to play this game for another year, but if they will make 3 steps backwards again in 2022, I don't think that players will give them another chance again to keep polishing the same product for next 4,5 years implementing 2 minor changes each year.So now this could be the most important period for KONAMI while they work on PES 2022. This is their final exam next September (probably) so let's them work on something special and I hope that the time they've dedicated to work on new engine will fully pay off next year as well. I hope they've learnt a lesson and know now what's the players' expectation and needs are.

The worse thing is that there is no alternative for PES this year again. It was always there for years, years, but it's been demolished by microtransaction shit. I was pushing myself to start playing FIFA for 6,7 times for last 11 months but I can't stand it for longer than 10 minutes. But let's be more positive - PES 2021 seems to be even more enjoyable game and I reeeeaaallly hope KONAMI won't be that stupid to brush aside a mass of fans they have gathered for last 2 years showing them that they finally started heading a good way in recent years implementing the game that has very courageously been compared to PES 6 by some of us in previous threads.

Enjoy the game guys!
 
Nah, mate. They surely don't lack resources.... But they definitely lack some sort of direction. It kinda started when they decided to part ways with Kojima.

Well I meant if you compare Konami with EA, even with Kojima at their side it's like comparing a small bakery budget with a multi billion dollar international franchise... EA has limitless funds whereas Konami doesn't. That's why EA can pretty much get any licenses they want if they set their mind to it.

The fact that Clubs and Associations are dumb also doesn't help because if they knew any better they would do what Porsche did back in 2016 when they dropped the exclusivity deals with EA and began having their brand exposed on pretty much every car game in the market which meant they are everywhere, whereas in the Football department being exclusive to one product or another means losing half the marketing real estate (regardless of the actual sales figures for both products - the games on this case)
 
Live Stream of PES 2021. will be testing stuff and showcasing PES Universe option file.

my Premier League kits didn't make it to V1, my bad,, but these will all be available for V2

any tactical requests welcome....
 
Is anyone else experiencing lag with the Steam version, my PC is more than capable and I am using all the same setting as PES 20 but every game is a stutter fest!
 
Everyone who doesnt see the differences didnt play 2020 enough.

- dribbling way better and more responsive
- headers stronger (yay!)
- more openness on attacks / defensive holes
- slightly imrpved shooting and keepers
- some new animations (passing, headers)
- collisons improved

Not placebo, just 30 years of football games experience. Im pleaseantly surprised. I liked 2020 and Im happy that this is a better version of it.

Without reading any impressions beforehand after my first big session and also a player who really likes PES2020 this is exactly how I feel. Crazy to see
 
It seems the issue with Option Files on PC were fixed, at least I could import PES Universe's OF flawlessly without deleting manager and sponsor images. I hope that is true for other OFs as well.
 
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