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The referee thread: discuss referees and their decisions

beachryan

Golden Boot Winner
4 July 2003
Bermuda
Did Clattenburg do something wrong in the Chelsea-Spurs match?
I don't have that feeling.

Is it possible to prevent something like that ? Are there referees in here who can answer that question.

I haven't the feeling he did much wrong...perhaps sending offs would have made it worse...i expect some post match bans for Dembele and Lamela...
For me it's just hard as a United fan...Mike Dean sent off Mata for something that wouldn't even have been called up by Clattenberg yesterday, the way he handled Spurs Chelsea. And to be honest, I saw Dean this weekend and he was letting everything go and the match flow happily. It's just so incredibly inconsistent, like they're using different rule books depending on their mood.

I like Clattenberg and that he didn't send anyone off - but really all refs need to be like that, rather than some incredibly fussy and to the letter and others being moderate.
 

Godotelli

Stroking Silva's Hair
27 July 2012
Manchester
Manchester City
Can understand holding/pulling but tapping someone twice?

What new rule have I missed?

1 plus tho is that for the rest of the game I didn't see any grappling
 
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beachryan

Golden Boot Winner
4 July 2003
Bermuda
Anyone understand why the ref in the Spurs v Pool match decided to have a chat to Vertonghen after he blatantly hauled down the Liverpool attacker on a corner?

What does he say there? Pardon chap, but you really must be more careful, rugby tackling your opponent to the ground is a penalty, in football. Except right now of course, because I've decided to talk to you about it!?
 

gerd

Retired Footballer
8 January 2002
Over the moon
KRC Genk, Spurs
Because Jan is the man, beach...
That should have been a penalty indeed.

Ref made several very poor decisions. We were rather lucky to save a point.
 

bebo

Looking for a Manager
25 July 2005
Arsenal Thread
The Arsenal FC
What I understood the drag down happened before the ball was in play(kicked). So, cannot give a penalty for a push or dragging before the ball was in motion. The ref did what other refs do ,chat shit to the guilty party.

I`m here all week: I know a few things, about a few things.


Aquero was wiping sweat off his nose! clean player through n through
 

Godotelli

Stroking Silva's Hair
27 July 2012
Manchester
Manchester City
One angle says Red
The other angle says Yellow

I'm sure he'll get banned after all the coverage even tho Fellaini has gotten away with 10 times worse about 10 times in the last 10 months. And even tho the ref clearly sees the challenge.

We'll have to deal with it. Nolito or Silva as a false 9 with Gundogan/Sane coming in would probably be my choice.
 

Godotelli

Stroking Silva's Hair
27 July 2012
Manchester
Manchester City
Halsey was on Talksport last night. He said that the ref union gets referees to lie and say they didn't see an incident even when they did
If Marriner said he didn't see it wtf was he looking at?
 

bebo

Looking for a Manager
25 July 2005
Arsenal Thread
The Arsenal FC

beachryan

Golden Boot Winner
4 July 2003
Bermuda
To be honest I can totally understand why that happened, because of the rule which I believe has changed.

Which said if a ref sees the incident it cannot be reviewed, period, even if the ref himself acknowledges that he was wrong. Which is just insane.

So, for example and no idea if this was the case, but historically if the ref saw Aguero run into the defender - but not the elbow - then it couldn't be reviewed.

Laws of the game are madness.
 

beachryan

Golden Boot Winner
4 July 2003
Bermuda
Bit of follow on, it's an anti-Manchester bias ;)
“I was in the same boat as Lee Mason that time when Wayne Rooney swore into a TV camera in a game at West Ham. No referee would have sent off for that, but Lee came under pressure to report that he hadn’t seen it but would have given a red card if he had seen it."
 

beachryan

Golden Boot Winner
4 July 2003
Bermuda
Does anyone understand refereeing any more? In the Chelsea match, Costa scored an overhead kick - and literally cut the head of the defender. Why is that not a high boot? Anyone?
 

bebo

Looking for a Manager
25 July 2005
Arsenal Thread
The Arsenal FC
Cahil doesnt look a foul more like he lost control due to balance (lack of concentration). No one was complaining afterwards and JT`s reaction says it all.
 

gerd

Retired Footballer
8 January 2002
Over the moon
KRC Genk, Spurs
It was perhaps a soft second yellow, but...
He was asking for it the whole time he was on the pitch, bebo...Arsenal were very lucky to come away with a draw...
 

bebo

Looking for a Manager
25 July 2005
Arsenal Thread
The Arsenal FC
ref was tire of Giroud's moaning from the second he was on . He needs to focus on the match not players temperaments. Both of them (players)had a good game too. Both delt a harsh end .
 

Cuky

International
23 June 2007
Rab, Croatia
Real Madrid, Hajduk Split
Player being sent off on the advice from Video Asistant Referee (VAR) who looked at replays and notified the referee
 

Godotelli

Stroking Silva's Hair
27 July 2012
Manchester
Manchester City
Zlatan should expect a 3 game ban for his elbow, maybe more if they deem his stamp intentional, but Mings should get a long ban - at least 10 games. He certainly wouldn't play again this season if I was in charge. Stamping on someone's head/neck is dangerous shit.

There's no reason why these incidents need to even be left to the ref. A bloke with an ipad in the stand can call down and send players off without issue
 
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