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I would like to see the attack like this
Messi---D. Milito (Tevez)--- Di Maria
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Why is Saddam Hussein coaching you guys?
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Very unconvincing. Don't see what all the fuss about Argentina is.
Maradona playing with one midfielder at 1-0, for the last 20 mins.
Spain/Brazil still my bet, much more solid units than this Maradona mess.
Greece were shockingly poor so South Korea really cannot be judged yet
And Nigeria were any good that you can do this big analysis?
Common South Korea were great, lovely offensive movement, solid passing, they also had their job done.
But this is the Argentina thread, so lets go back on topic, I'm not that disappointed at Argentina, I've heard it was a mess, and it really was,
but individually your players can make the difference, but they need to step up if they wanna make it,
Messi is doing his thing, but the others seem out of place, wasn't impressed by anybody else in creativeness and sparky football but their fighting spirit is on fire, that you gotta give credit to Maradona.
And whats up with Jonas, that side is wide-open, kinda of like Michel Bastos, a decent winger can do some serious damage there, perhaps Ribery's chance to get his game on track again, who knows![]()
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Oh common mate, I wrote I was impressed by their fighting spirit, and the unit Maradona made, didn't I? Maybe I'm writing it wrong?
I'm also very impressed with Messi, he is doing his usual all around attacking.
But you gotta see the down sides too, your attack rotating is pretty nice idea, thats why I like seeing South American teams kick some Europeans ass.
I'm brazilian but don't think I'm bitter towards Argentina, I actually enjoy them a lot and wanna see them better, of course at the end, I'll support Brazil.
But that rotating wasn't really working except for Messi and Higuain who had some pretty decent right flank to the box running, but Tevez was kinda of lost and Di Maria wasn't in the game that much.
And the mess I'm talking about is that right side, Obasi had quite few chances there, sometimes he was totally free.
Most argentine players simply would not pass the ball to Di Maria, no matter how wide open he was. There must be some ego problems in the squad...
I would love to see Pastore instead of Veron. He would be in my team anyday.
But apart from the experience, JSV has superior defensive abilities and I suppose that's one reason, he's starting. If Pastore was to start instead of him, then Argentina basically has Mascherano and 4 defenders to do almost all the defending for the team (Of course the whole team attacks and defends together but I mean only 5 actually know how to defend lool like put a tackle in, mark, cover, etc. ) and of course one of those back 4 at least for now seems to be Jonas anyway so really that would mean 4 players know how to defend in 10 outfield players which is just too crazy for even Maradonna.
It's the only reason I can see Veron ahead of Pastore.
Of course all this didn't have to be a problem. Argentina could've had Zanetti at rigtht back with Cambiasso and Mascherano in middle (or Banega) with Pastore a little further forward.
Now that'd be a solid defensive and attacking unit. Experienced. deadly. Energetic.
But whatever, what's done is done. I would've thought Pastore would come in for Veron as a sub at least tho but he brought Maxi on which I also found very strange!
di Maria was asked to tuck into midfield alongside Veron at times airjoca.
Which I agree is not the best use for him. Out wide he can wreak havoc and coming in off the flank as you've seen many a time this season.
His space was squeezed by the three ahead of him ie:
--------Higuain(free role)--------------Tevez(free role/RM)
---------------------------Messi--------------------------
---------di Maria--------------------------Veron----------
--------------------------Mascherano----------------------
Well, that is exactly how he played at Benfica:
--------Cardozo--------------Saviola(free role/RM)
---------------------------Aimar--------------------------
---------di Maria--------------------------Ramires----------
--------------------------Javi Garcia----------------------
You were probably looking at the team as a whole, while we here at Portugal were looking to Di Maria in particular because he plays for Benfica, and everyone, including Porto and Sporting fans kind of agree that he simply did not receive the ball, especially from Heinze, Veron and Mascherano. He would make runs, ask for the ball, but even though many times he was wide open, they would pass back towards the defenders, or to the centre, away from him.
When I watched the game I was thinking "am I paranoid or are they avoiding Di Maria?", then as I read through many comments on Portuguese forums I realized I wasn't the only one to notice it.
Maybe it's because he's the "new guy", the older core team members are kind of ignoring him on the pitch...
I wish Veron could be classified as a defensive midfielder. But he lacks the stamina and pace now PLF. His role is akin to Pirlo but he's not as good as he was.
Pastore at least has the pace to get round the pitch and make a nuisance of himself.
Banega would have been ideal. He can act as a DM though he is still rash and he can also dictate play from deep or attack going box to box a la Redondo.
I agree playing Pastore might be ovely aggressive PLF but then you could play another real defender at RB ie 5 stay at homes.
I cannot wait for next year if I'm still around for Banega to team up with Pastore. Both aged 21 they should be the bedrock of the Argentine midfielder for 2014 and 2018.
Fully agree on everything.
And yeah Veron can't be classified as that. But I think it's fair to say he does at least have superior defensive skills to Pastore.
Pfft... by then Argentina has produced numerous other talents!
I'd say that's a little too long-sighted? (? lol I mean opposite of short-sighted. :p ) looking too far into the future and who knows what shape/condition these players are in by then. Javier, I have more faith in but Banega I think has the tendency and personality to self-destruct (Despite the recent improvements) so I can see him being on TOP of the world and reaching his peak but also become shit, quite unpredictable and unstable.
But yeah I see your point. In theory, they should and hopefully will.
What's that about next year though? Who's to say Maradona won't still be in charge and if he is or whoever else is, would Ever get his chance? Perhaps he'll still be ignored. I hope not though especially if he has another season like he did last.
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