The referee thread: discuss referees and their decisions

Mike Dean is a Spurs fan through and through, the spineless little prick.
Not just the celebrations for their goals, but look at his refereeing against Arsenal in that last Chelsea match. It was so scandalous, that the FA overturned his straight red decision against Gabriel - and that's the first time we've ever seen the FA doing that for a decision already taken by a ref. That's how obvious he is.

A league where Arsenal were refereed by Phil Dowd and Mike Dean taking turns each week would be a freaking relegation campaign for Arsenal!
 
below is an extract from referee Moss's match report:

When myself and my colleagues left the field of play at half-time, as we entered the tunnel area to get to our dressing room, Mr Mourinho the Chelsea manager was waiting for us clearly agitated and began aggressively asking about first-half decisions. Rather than publicly speak to him I asked him to step into the entrance of my dressing room escorted by Simon Sutton, the West Ham United security manager. Mr Mourinho asked me about a tackle, an offside and a goal line clearance. I gave him brief answers to his questions. After this I asked him to leave the dressing room area. He refused. I asked him again. After he refused again I asked Mr Sutton to escort him from the room. At this point Mr Mourinho became very aggressive and animated. He shouted that you [expletive] referees are weak…Wenger is right about you…you are [expletive] weak. I advised Mr Mourinho not to take his position in the technical area for the second half.
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I dont get the £40m fine, when , he was invited for discussion over the calls.
 
Rentboy said:
Mike Dean is a Spurs fan through and through, the spineless little prick.
Not just the celebrations for their goals, but look at his refereeing against Arsenal in that last Chelsea match. It was so scandalous, that the FA overturned his straight red decision against Gabriel - and that's the first time we've ever seen the FA doing that for a decision already taken by a ref. That's how obvious he is.

A league where Arsenal were refereed by Phil Dowd and Mike Dean taking turns each week would be a freaking relegation campaign for Arsenal!
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Are you José Mourinho ?
 
gerd said:
Are you José Mourinho ?
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I have nothing to say. Nothing at all.

Sometimes I even skip the post match beers with my friends. So I guess we have something in common.

I just think a Spurs supporting ref shouldn't be allowed to get anywhere near any matches related to the North London clubs.
 
How do you know that Dean is a Spurs fan?
Is there any scientific way to prove that somebody is aan of a team if the person himself doesn't acknowledge it?

And while i agree with you that it's better that a fan should not officiate in matches of his favourite team, why couldn't it be the other way round?

I used to referee my son's team quite frequently when there was no their ref available. In doubt ( and Icahn assure you this happened quite frequently), i always gave the advantage to the other team, because everybody knew i was the rather of one of the home team players.

PSaying that Dean is a Spurs fan on the basis of that video is equivalent to what Mourinho is doing.

Good luck in the derby this afternoon. Lots of people are saying that things are looking good for Spurs. So i have a very bad feeling for this match. You will do to us what Bayern has done to you. Let's hope for a good and fair match.
 
Oops just saw this now. Your prediction unfortunately was very off the mark, Gerd!

What Mourinho has been doing is dodging responsibility for his own results by constantly blaming referees.

What I'm doing is singling out Mike Dean. You're right: nobody has proof of his allegiances. But then again, find me any other referee that celebrates goals or show their emotions that way. It's bizarre.

I also take into consideration the Arsenal win ratio on matches refereed by Mike Dean. If you look into that just out of curiosity, it's astonishing.

Anyway, people can say it's all coincidence, while I think it looks very suspicious.
But at the end of the day, I'm only a footbal fan. I'm not Mourinho. If I had to speak to the media on a club manager capacity, I would never utter these words :LOL:

The thing is that Mourinho does: let's not forget about Anders Frisk, that Swedish ref who had to retire because of Mourinho's venomous tongue.
 
Godotelli said:
Dean tends to ref the bigger games and as we all know Arsenal have been crap in them for a long time
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Crap like the last time we played at the Emptyhad?

Ah sorry, you may be right. That wasn't against a big team :P
 
Ref today at City pulled back an advantage (an advantage that I don't think he even signalled) that had played on for like half a minute! To rub it in they scored from the resulting freekick.
 
not to mention (2) obvious hand balls ,that should of given to both teams w/ a yellow & penalty . Otamendi got away w/ a lot today and Demi was penalised for less. It was a strange day for the ref. Although the result seems fair.
 
Quality trolling by the PAOK keeper at the end of the BVB match. (they won 1-0). At 88 mins, he goes down, holding his head. Play has to stop. Probably 1.5 mins of discussion, physios.

Ref had already added just 3 mins.

So that takes us to 90 mins with no play. At which point they get a goal kick. All the PAOK players head up to the halfway line. But wait! The poor keeper can't kick the ball! So a defender has to walk all the way back to take the goalkick. That's another 30 seconds, at least.

So the ref adds on the time right? Nope, blows at 93:20.

I don't care about the result, but what is the point of even pretending with stoppage time? If you're winning, cheat. Fake injury. Choose 7 players to take a throw in. Get cramp, even when you're a sub that's just come on. If you get subbed, hell do a lap of the field, at walking pace before leaving.

Cause refs are adding nothing on this year. It's so weird. A conspiracy theorist might question the tv contracts and timings of advertising slots...
 
Newcastle penalty for a grappling match between Mitrovic and Smalling...in which Mitrovic not only lumps Smalling on the back of the head, but also drags him to the ground and grabs Smalling's throat. Definitely a foul from Smalling too, but how on earth you can give that one way and not the other...no idea.

Having seen replay, Smalling definitely starts it - but you can see 3 others doing the same thing.

Similar to the handball in the first half, which is questionable at best. With both things, there just doesn't seem to be an actual rule to enforce. Certainly not one enforced with consistency anyway.
 
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Saw the same thing on a previous corner that wasn't spotted.

Can't believe LVG brought Memphis on with Sissoko constantly raiding down the right
 
1st penalty is a penalty that arm extension that abnormally high is hoping to push something off. That 2nd penalty was (2) players at it, Look like insects mating . It was a typical penalty for Dean ,he loves being the highlight of a match.
 
You need a separate topic for mike dean :P

but that was amazing like watching the replays it was
how earth did you see them as penalites @mike dean
seriously he was in a perfect position really good position

For me none were penalites

Hand ball rules need to be looked over recently far too inconsistent
 
Nobody here speaks about the penalty in Spurs-Leicester...

IMO that was an unbelievably harsh penalty for Leicester. As a Spurs fan i might be biased, but it think that strictly by the rules it can be given (not sure), but if that is true, the rules have to change...

IMO that was a great match and Leicester didn't deserve that equaliser...obviously as a Spursfan i'm happy (well not if we loose in Leicester, than the only thing we gained is more tiredness), but Leicester were playing very good...Spurs were dominating but Leicester defended very good...
 
That was a ridiculous decision against Leicester. Just insane. Ref looking to make a story.

The handball rule is even less understood by the 'experts' we have commentating. I watch most matches on mute now.
 
faith genesis raven said:
You need a separate topic for mike dean :P

but that was amazing like watching the replays it was
how earth did you see them as penalites @mike dean
seriously he was in a perfect position really good position

For me none were penalites

Hand ball rules need to be looked over recently far too inconsistent
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Probably the only definite pen was the one he didn't give lol


I dunno how rule changes are supposed to help. Even if they made it 'if it hits an arm it's a pen, no questions', we'd just see forwards scooping the ball up onto the defender's arm and it'd end up a farce.

Handballs, unless it deflects up onto the players arm are just often difficult calls, like very close offsides. I think it's just a case of having to deal with it.
Giving the captain/manager of each team 1 or 2 chances per game to contend a decision is probably a decent rule that could come in these kinds of situations
 
No pen

https://vine.co/v/iMQ9VgDTnKz

Injury time as well
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It's so interesting how a match changes with the referee too. Against Derby on Friday, we had a ref that let most things go, and barely had a foul.

Tonight against Stoke the ref is giving every touch as a foul, must have been a dozen against United alone.

Must be so weird as a player to try and adjust to that.
 
IMHO it was understandable mistake by Clattenburg (i'm not a big of him).

What should change is the handsball rule...the current rule makes it very difficult for the refs. You can't jump and turn like Sterling without moving your arm (and imo the ball never touched his arm). Hands should only be given if the player is making a deliberate move towards the ball (Som's hands was never hands either, but that didn't matter in the end...).

Like i said: we were lucky. But City equalised and they still lost the match, don't forget that.
 
Thought it was an incredibly harsh penalty, and pretty much just the wrong decision.

What's weird is his decision to give it - barely anyone other than Rose was appealing for it. It's not like a 'heat of the moment' type thing.

Which is the situation with Atkinson, who is a spineless coward of a ref and the sooner he retires the better. Reknowned homer who gets caught up in the moment. Two yellows for THOSE challenges in a key match? Calm the f*ck down ref. No common sense. Then chickened out of a leg breaker later in the match.

He is so, so bad. And comes across as an utter tool.
 
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