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I don't know why Namco didn't make another Football Kingdom game, they have the framework there for a great football game (physics, passing, shooting, nets) and don't seem to be using it at all.
 
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360 degree movement, full manual passing, nice animations, best nets in a game ever, good grass textures & lighting and a good camera angle. We need all of this in both FIFA and PES. And this was all achieved 4 years ago and on inferior hardware. Just imagine if it was done appropriatley on the PS3 or 360 and with Konami or EA behind the helm!
 
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jonneymendoza said:
confirmed where? where does it say that the pc version will have ps2 gameplay?
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In all the previews that have been posted numerous times in here and discusses numerous times in here.

For example:

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ahh i see, cheers for that. cant see the point in uping the graphics and not the gameplay. pointless realy
 
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amcp_ffm said:
http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_a...cw486ce7c3e8edf&idj=cw486b7bbf9ce6a&&iframe=1

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Google translator :applaud::LOL::DD


Enjoy the reading ;)


After one season at the highest level and Reval in the form of Euro, Fife prepares to continue his leadership within the digital football before the arrival of a new Pro Evolution that seek to improve the level of discreet 2008. More realistically, faster and more complete, tested Fife 09 in their versions for the new generation.

Powering the basis of Fife 08
When the hangover still hard for the celebrations by reaching the second Euro in the history of Spain, EA has taught us the first preliminary version of Fife 09, which goes on sale next October 3 for all current systems. The title, scheduled as is tradition in the EA Sports studios in Vancouver, sits on the basis playable successful last year that made the saga overcome despite following several years in regard to inferiority simulator Konami. Thus, all efforts have focused on increasing its realism, speed and rhythm of the match, as well as expand many other elements such as game modes, competitions or online support.

The graphics engine returns to be the same as last year's edition, specifically the third generation of engine developed by EA Sports. With the backs well covered in that aspect, the team has focused on improvements in those details could do this: a total of 250 new additions, alterations and adjustments have been made on the engine.
Small major details of this new Fifa are seen instantly. The animations are now more direct and more softness, but still footballers are not taken so long to perform movements, the dribbling is faster and more touches, losing the ball in the air is done with a single blow to chest by ending settlements in lieu of requiring the three above, give the ball and exiting career is almost at the same time rather than two actions, has been corrected latency of the response in the air, and it is also possible cuts to the ground ending with a pass from the lawn instead of a clearance.


The motor collision is one of the points on which greater emphasis has been laid. The clipping that appeared in careers competing shoulder to shoulder has disappeared and more variables come into play as the physical attributes specific to each player to decide the outcome, which explained one of its producers recently. Match the entries to flush grass eventually breaking down the attacker in a consistent way as specific speed and direction for each entry if it goes to the leg. If only we played other leg, the player loses slightly but the balance will be recovered, along with the move.


And with all this, the speed of the game has gone up by 5% and the response of the players by 25% compared with Fife 08. This is perceived as greater immediacy in between our orders and the reactions of the players and has a direct impact on the pace of play, making it more fluid. The physics of the ball, one of the most successful last season, has again been revised, offering a more natural effects to different types of shooting, even in the conduct of the ball by the grass.

The graphics performance is excellent: with everything said, during all our parties remained stable 60 frames per second running at 1080p, with the sole exception of falls in the repetitions, although we were assured that is a detail that was rectified in the following betas. And speaking of the repetitions are an ideal time to compare the level of detail that this new version incorporates Fife. For example, the grass is sinking to the passage of the ball or the boots of the players, and slow motion shows how the blade of grass become depressed and rise to every centimetre that the ball rolls by

On the other hand textures of the players represent veins, pores, hair, skin imperfections, músuclos of the legs or even the edge of the shin especially by the media. Altogether 500 of the more than 16,000 players from 09 Fife have received special treatment in his recreation both facial and bodily, and could not be otherwise as it is talent Cristiano Ronaldo, Deco, Ronaldinho, Ribery, Benzema, Villa , Fábregas, Tevez or Casillas, first-tier players transferred to the screen with the greatest fidelity.

In the game modes local novelty accounts for the Season Be a Pro, which puts us in the skin of a player, chosen by default or set up our free will, over 4 seasons in which they should be opened step by the world of football. It is a reflection of Dynasty mode of Madden that such acceptance was on the other side of the pond and a continuation with what included in the Uefa Euro 2008, where we should try to reach captain of our selection. In this attempt to build road must meet various goals per season, as a specific figure scoring goals or finish with a determined performance to continue climbing positions.


They appear too tournaments; 30 competitions between different leagues and cups of various countries, some major leagues exclusive, and how race, in which over 15 seasons, will head the reins of a team both in the country and outside it, in this edition incorporating more elements of Fife Manager PC. Finally, the lounge so everyone can save the results that we have with up to 20 different friends, is simply a place where they recreated with electronic confrontations past.


In options online EA Sports has tried to cuajar compatibility fuller over the Internet from any sports title. How to Be Pro online, which in the last edition allowed parties of 5 to 5 will be expanded to a larger number of footballers, although it will be at E3 to find out how far his ambition. What we can anticipate is the creation of lobbies, which will facilitate greatly playing with friends.


The Web Football EA Sports World, in beta, will allow the creation of an avatar that will be reflected in the progression of player in the form of statistics. This will give us insight into how our opponents play, both indirectly by the statistics, as viewing videos of them, since they may raise their own hands.


Leveling the online aspect is one of the great strengths of EA Sports for further improvement in Fife, since this will be used to bring news that will ensure that players do not always choose the same equipment and confirming the details of which will end soon. The league will continue Online also present.
"Play your way"

That the motto of Fifa 09 in control. Offering three different schemes, Classical, alternative and Customizable-which can override button by button-EA Sports aims to provide a complete player customization asiganción the control buttons. But this philosophy is also open to paragraph tactician, traditionally one of the poorest in Fife. The formations are available 20 fixed with traditional patterns like 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, while it is possible to develop their own games, save them and share them on the Internet. This option comes as EA, collecting feedback and comments from players Fife through websites, forums, surveys and Comunty Managers. In the words of Andrew Wilson, Executive Producer of the franchise, "we have listened and responded to all players and football fans worldwide which was on the way to build a totally unique experience and personalized Fife 09 for each platform."


Depth and tactical possibilities
As for tactics teams, editable different variables such as how to defend, the speed of movement of the ball, the type of pass-counterattacks in the crossfire, satin in depth or long-ball, positioning players in pressure, the aggressiveness of it, make that a central join the attack-including goalkeeper in situations-limit, increasing the possession, opening the game with the bands, areas of coverage and other multiple facets with which attempts to deepen the tactical.
Likewise a small train explanations about the effect that leads to modify them in every direction. You can save different tactics and change them quickly to the needs of the party, in real time via the directional pad.
The adjustments also include equipment options already present as previously edited the exact position of the players in the field, their role, the trend offensive and defensive-something that if we force poniéndolo very high impact on the energies of our guys, tired before - or movements to attack and where it falls and where it clogs each player in the defense. The strategy also extends to different variants of corners, serves de banda or misdemeanours, each mapped to several pulsations of a single button-for example, button B x3, x4 or A-.

EA Sports says that incorporate new races, but in this first contact we have not seen any significant although revisions of existing ones. Other new movements as a ploy to protect the ball being done by holding down the trigger career, bringing the player is stopped and retains possession poking the body in the opposite direction that appears


Because chute door was not so easy
The fire door had been treated in a more demanding and the likelihood that they are not among the three clubs have improved, becoming both more precise. This will initially cost adjust shots to the desired zone-depend on the aim and the position of player-to-door in addition to what forced the play-but once dominated this new mechanics, provide better results. And if we think too hard, it offers the possibility that the shot to go door-assisted, semi-or fully assisted manuals.

To win in consistency, and for the first time, the referee and his assistants have a presence in the field. The college will behave as expected, following the move and pointing out breaches-even can receive impacts of the ball and ruin a good transition-as well as line judges, who as a spring rise to the pennant incurring offside. Walking field also found the presence of medical, safety equipment, photographers, TV cameras and even the refrigerator of utillero. The benches are also portrayed, but in this version we have not seen or technicians with alternates seated in them, but all indications are that it will. The audience that filled stadiums is no longer in 2D, giving way to three-dimensional models rather simple, but better able to recreate the appearance of some bleachers on the basis of their different combinations.


Your own team. Your own players.
Another way with great impact on the community is the editor of players, and 09 of Fife is directly inherited from past Tiger Woods, who has been described as one of the best so far. Lets change complexion, age, nation, team or be free agent, position, role, name on the shirt, height, weight, chin chin, cheeks, kind of legs, boots that fits-initially set EA Sports, but in the shop can be bought dozens of models of brands such as Adidas, Nike, Puma, Diadora, Hummel or Umbro-or celebrations-boosting both arms, throwing kisses, mandar people to remain silent, make the plane, give hugs, lifting a fist, etc. -. It has 1,500 points to create the player, suitability for origins.

Later can be purchased more points to improve the attributes to demand.
The narration and comments, which have been an element stalled in recent editions of Fife, have been renovated: Paco Gonzalez and Manolo Lama have recorded a total of 80,000 new words with which the portfolio forward some freshness to the followers of Title accustomed a few developments in the sweeper recent years. La banda sonora again follow the same line as in previous releases, powerful groups of subjects graduates who eventually confirmed this summer, probably in Leipzig. By the way, the game camera is composed of 6 predefined more option to customize our own, adjusting parameters such as height and zoom level.



First Impressions
The first impression with the new Fifa 09 has been positive. Failing to add many more hours of games with the future and deepen preview version in paragraphs as AI, so valuing nearest physics of the ball, exploiting the tactics of a more profound and see the scope of the new game modes, we can only anticipate that the Fife this year has very good pint, even better than last year. Critical point, which of course does not mean a revolution like that of Fife 08, as it sits on the same basis and improvement, but what we saw and what remains to be seen, indicate that this season Fife again be strong. Pro Evolution Soccer is going to have to come out strongly to attack if the situation does not want to repeat last year; be the second of its kind.
 
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For years there haven't been too many changes on the PC version, the graphic engine is old and ugly in FIFA 08 and even the gameplay was not as excited as lot of people wished. But with FIFA 09 there apears a new kind of FIFA: We have played the game, and it looks much better, you can play it much better and it feels better - it is better!

Designed for the PC
In recent years there have been used the Playstation 2 version for the PC version. This comes to an end now. The PC version is designed for the PC, it is not a converted version of a console. Thus, the game is now independent, and no longer dependent on certain characteristics of consoles.



Polished, deep gameplay
The changes in gameplay is clearly evident. In the range of collisions (especially in the air) have been worked a lot: A completely rewritten logic with 350 new animations ensures that collisions of two players are very realistic and understandable. If two players jump simultaneously to the header, it now makes a difference whether you have a heavy boulders or a flyweight as opponents. Height and the weight of the players and of course the right timing to decide about who is the winner of a two-fight.

In practice, the game is now very smooth. Passes go quickly to the next player, the player animations are elegant, and not bumpy anymore. The ball jumps more realistic now, and it bounce from players comprehensible. Well: It's really fun to play FIFA with this gameplay.

Comparing the gameplay with the NextGen version, so there is no big difference anymore. In my own opinion, there are still some points which could be improved to get perfect, but on the other hand there have been some guys on the event who said that they prefer the gameplay of the PC version instead of the one of the NextGen version. Which one is really better is probably a matter of taste. The fact is, however, that the biggest change in the gameplay since 4 years pays off.


Redesigned menuü
A renewal can be found in menu design. Here are not only the already known menu items, but also various widgets. If there is available an Internet connection there widgets include some information about your own status, your own team, the community up to news of your own favorite teams from the real soccer world.

The menu itself is now also optimized for higher resolutions, even in HD monitors the menu now looks nicer..



New controll by using keyboard and mouse
If you do not have a gamepad, you previously had always to play by using the keyboard. This was unfortunately always a little wrinkled and inaccurate, gamepad users have always had an advantage. EA Sports now has built in a new control system where you use a keyboard-mouse combination.

AThe principle is basically very simple: The player can be moved with the keys W, A, S, D. If you want to use these keys because you think it is too complicated, you can optionally activate the "follow the mouse" mode. Then the player is automatically following the cursor whereever you move it. With the space bar you can run faster, by using the Alt key the speed of the player is reduced.

By using the cursor you can decide where the pass will go. Left click is a pass to the selected target, if you hold the left button, there will be a cross into this direction. Right click stands for a shot. Tricks are also on the middle mouse button. If you hold this key and move the mouse in a certain direction, the trick will be done.

This sounds strange one the one hand and complicated one the other hand - but it is not. If you practice this controll a bit, and you get used to it, you have a very precise control about the game.

Of course, you still can use a gamepads or use only the keyboard without a mouse - these possibilities are still available.



Next Generation Graphic
The fact which everyone had been waiting is now finally finally: FIFA 09 contains the NextGen graphics and makes a big step towards console version.

The player models are now as pretty as the ones out of the PlayStation 3 and Xbox360 version, so that even the muscles of the players can be identified. 3D grass grows from the ground, pretty shader and glowing effects have been added. The players look totally realistic, have a natural skin colour. It is possible to recognize Michael Ballack not only because of his face, but also because of his deceptively similar 3D hair.

However there are still missing some things. The stadiums are not yet adapted to NextGen, the spectators and the surrounding area in the stadiums have not been renewed yet. The NextGen changes have been primarily done in the area of the playing field which you can see all the time during the game. Nevertheless, the overall picture of the graphic is very positive.
AEA has made a big step. The main focus has been on the NextGen graphic on the field in FIFA 09. EA will continue working on the graphics, so that - perhaps next year - there will even more Next Generation graphics available



Fully constomized PC controll
Also a new feature is the possibility that the whole controll is fully configurable - which also means that the defence and attack commands can now be separated. previously The command for "shot" and "tackling" have always been on the same button, but in FIFA 09 it is possible now to assign two different keys to these commands.

Online Mode
EA now has removed the outdated Match Maker. Now it is no longer necessary to load an external program to be able to play online. Instead it is now the same system as in the NextGen consoles: The online lobby is directly included to the FIFA menu.


System requirements
The NextGeneration graphics - of course - increases the system requirements a lot. How much these requirements will be is not clear yet, because the game is still in development and EA still tries to improve the graphic performance more and more.

If you have a high-end graphics card as the GeForce 8800 and 3 GB of RAM, you don't have to worry, you will be able to play the game in full details.

If you have a rather weaker PC you can adjust the level of details and lower it step by step. It's possible to set it to the FIFA 08 level. So if the game is not running fast enough, just switch of some details, and you can play FIFA 09, too.


Conclusion (PC Version)
The PC version makes a big step forward. Because of the Next Generation graphics it looks really great, the gameplay is similar to the Next-Gen consoles. In short: The game is just fun, it plays out different and looks different than the predecessor. FIFA 09 has no reason to hide, EA has done a great job.

From event in germany. Today will be the same event in Moscow.

PS.Placebo, plz stop posting that old post from magazine , we have now more newer and authentic news!!!
 
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i doubt anyone would read that. its very unreadable at its current state. please use paragraphs

edit: at kouroux post..
o and if that interview is true then that pretty much cements that the gameplay AND graphics are nearly on par with the 360 version.
 
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Solar CFC said:
PS.Placebo, plz stop posting that old post from magazine , we have now more newer and authentic news!!!
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Yes, you're right. The PC looks identical as the console versions...:brick:

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It looks better then before, but player models, boots, fonts and lightning still looks different.
 
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man why all the hating on the pc version? its like some of you want the pc version to be shit
 
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Because FIFA on PC/PS2 has been shit since 98, and it is still developed by the same team as PS2 FIFA and uses the same basic engine, which will result in a bad game.

Graphic whores will like it though, people who just buy a super computer to admire graphics...
 
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Jonney, i just got myself a dell xps m1330 laptop. Would it run games like fifa 09 next-gen smoothly? I know pc won't have next-gen but its just a question.

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Rob92 said:
Because FIFA on PC/PS2 has been shit since 98, and it is still developed by the same team as PS2 FIFA and uses the same basic engine, which will result in a bad game.

Graphic whores will like it though, people who just buy a super computer to admire graphics...
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so the same team who make the ps2 version are incapable of making the gameplay and graphics identical of not better then the 360/ps3? Also there not allowed to borrow the same framework from the guys who develop the 360/ps3?

Diddnt you read that interview? the guy said the gameplay is near on par with the 360/ps3. he might be talking crap but what are the odds of that happening?

edit: lami i would say maybe on medium because that graphics card you have is not that good im afriad. have you bought the laptop already? how much was it? seriously if you bought it already you should of really asked around first before purchasing it if you bought it to play some latest game son it
 
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jonneymendoza said:
edit: lami i would say maybe on medium because that graphics card you have is not that good im afriad. have you bought the laptop already? how much was it? seriously if you bought it already you should of really asked around first before purchasing it if you bought it to play some latest game son it
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Nah I haven't got it for gaming tbh. Got it for work and thought i'd just get the latest to last me enough. But thought i'd ask if it is good enough for gaming too.

EDIT: Only game i have on it so far is Civilization IV.
 
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kouroux said:
Google translator :applaud::LOL::DD

...Fife prepares to continue his leadership within the digital football......tested Fife 09 in their versions for the new generation.
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Can't wait for Fife 09.

I'm sure it will better than Konami's effort, PIS2009.
 
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lons_pl said:
Sorry but this is not good answer.If you don't have argument please don't say nothing.A hate stupid fanboys only said this is amazing funny kids!
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i do not need to argue anything this topic is not to argue about pes or fifa, so get a grip, take your petty arguments in the fanboy thread not here

i repeat "read between the lines", if you cannot see why fifa 09 is going to be good, then it is a waste of my time saying why!

if you care to read my previous posts on what i found good about fifa, then you may realise i am not a fanboy :CLOSED:

oh yea COCK!
 
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jonneymendoza said:
so the same team who make the ps2 version are incapable of making the gameplay and graphics identical of not better then the 360/ps3? Also there not allowed to borrow the same framework from the guys who develop the 360/ps3?

Diddnt you read that interview? the guy said the gameplay is near on par with the 360/ps3. he might be talking crap but what are the odds of that happening?

edit: lami i would say maybe on medium because that graphics card you have is not that good im afriad. have you bought the laptop already? how much was it? seriously if you bought it already you should of really asked around first before purchasing it if you bought it to play some latest game son it
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Rhetorical question? :-pp
 
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I jusy pray I can cope with the response times.I still think its average on EURO so it still needs to go up quite a notch for 09 IMO.

I know they say they have improved it but the EURO game was less responsive than the demo so can this be trusted.

i love the look and atmosphere but I just find it infuriating to play................hope its improved.
 
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10v10 online play confirmed for FIFA 09, parity between 360 and PS3

EA has confirmed that FIFA 09 will feature 10v10 online play on both the Xbox 360 and PS3. Moreover, the producer remarked that they have achieved parity between both the PS3 and Xbox 360, so there will not be anything visibly different between the two versions.


FIFA 09 will feature 10v10 online play on Xbox 360 and PS3. David Rutter, Line Producer on the PS3/360 version told us: "We've managed to get 10 v 10 this year online through strength of will and technological nous. [But] we want to make sure the control system for controlling goalkeepers is compelling enough before putting it in, because no game has done it particularly well, if it's even been in there.

"So we want to make sure it's good enough before putting it in because the last thing you want to do is say "tada - 11 v 11"… and the goal keepers are rubbish."

He also told us that they have achieved parity between the two consoles, so there won't be anything visibly different on either platform. And yes, tech, fans – that means they've got anti-aliasing running in full effect on PS3
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Goalkeeper control? I thought he'd said in a previous interview that you cannot control the keepers this year? Me confused!
 
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What the hell does anti-aliasing do anyway? I take it it's a good thing?
 
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proxi said:
Goalkeeper control? I thought he'd said in a previous interview that you cannot control the keepers this year? Me confused!
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it won't be in fifa 09, they are working on it and is something they will include in the future

i.e 11v11
 
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Nick Cave said:
It minimises distortion of High res images shown at a lower res, to put it in short terms...
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Cheers Nick - I've just got off tinternet after searching for what it means (which is what I should have done in the first place).
 
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